From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Jul 13 08:45:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C05B93B24 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 930541655 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bNFno-0002B7-Af; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:45:56 +0300 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:45:56 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Steve Clement Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD - a lesson in poor defaults? Message-ID: <20160713084556.GJ20831@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160713073859.GA88448@localhost.lu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20160713073859.GA88448@localhost.lu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:45:48 -0000 On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 09:38:59AM +0200, Steve Clement wrote: > Dear List, > > Not sure this has been shared here: > > https://vez.mrsk.me/freebsd-defaults.txt > > Some good points, others not so… > > Nevertheless a good read and food for thought and discussion. Most points is just inconvenience w/o security. IMHO, yes.