From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 12 17:17:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AB516A4CE for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 17:17:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AC043D73 for ; Thu, 12 May 2005 17:17:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (212.181.162.201) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.1.026.7) id 42687F2000594A05 for cvs-all@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 12 May 2005 19:17:17 +0200 Received: (qmail 51469 invoked by uid 1001); 12 May 2005 17:17:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 19:17:15 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Michael W. Lucas" Message-ID: <20050512171715.GA51426@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: "Michael W. Lucas" , doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org References: <200505121505.j4CF5c7i076426@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050512152855.GD92175@eddie.nitro.dk> <20050512154337.GA73901@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <20050512162100.GA50447@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050512163137.GA74349@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050512163137.GA74349@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i cc: doc-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq book.sgml X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:17:19 -0000 On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 12:31:37PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 06:21:00PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 11:43:37AM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > > > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 05:28:55PM +0200, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > > > > On 2005.05.12 15:05:38 +0000, Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > > mwlucas 2005-05-12 15:05:38 UTC > > > > > > > > > > FreeBSD doc repository > > > > > > > > > > Modified files: > > > > > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq book.sgml > > > > > Log: > > > > > Rewrite "math co-processor" answer to make it more clear and readable. > > > > > > > > > > Do we even run out-of-the-box on hardware without a math co-processor > > > > > these days? > > > > > > > > I don't think FreeBSD 5 runes without math co-processor at all, but > > > > I'm not sure. > > > > > > I agree: I'm not sure. > > > > > > If someone is sure, I would be more than happy to axe the whole > > > question (along with the other math co-processor FAQs). > > > > /usr/src/UPDATING says: > > > > 20030722: > > FPU-less support has been removed from FreeBSD. Chances are you won't > > notice. 386+387 support should still work after this change, but > > it is now a minimum requirement for the i386 port that you have real > > FPU hardware. > > > > > > This was between 5.1 and 5.2 so all releases from the 5-STABLE branch > > need a real FPU. Note that 4.11 still works with an emulated FPU (and > > is still officially supported) so it might not be wise to remove the > > section entirely. > > Checking the docs. What a thought. Axed, thanks! I did remember clearly that support *had* been axed. I just checked to see *when* it was axed (and to make sure people believed me when I said so. :-) ) > > > (While talking about supported hardware it might also be noted that to > > run 5.x on a real 80386 (+80387 FPU) you need to recompile word+kernel > > with 386 support (see the 2005027 and 20010116 entries in UPDATING), > > and for 6-CURRENT all support for a real 80386 (with or without FPU) > > has been axed completely (20041116 entry in UPDATING)) > > I'll see if I can put that in. > > On the other hand: is that a FAQ? Isn't that in the hardware notes? These days it is probably not much of an FAQ; few people seem to try to install FreeBSD on anything older than a Pentium these days. As for the hardware notes, that information ought to be there, but does not seem to be. (The hardware notes for 6-CURRENT seems to be correct, while those for 5-STABLE needs to be updated. The hardware notes for both 4.x and 5.x also has bogus warnings about the 80386sx which should be removed. (Bogus since from the OS's point of view there is no difference whatsoever between the 80386sx and a full-blowb 80386dx.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se