From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 08:38:46 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D3437B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 08:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCC743F85 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 08:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.9/8.11.6) with SMTP id h48Fcjqo006500; Thu, 8 May 2003 17:38:45 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 94288 invoked by uid 1000); Thu, 08 May 2003 15:38:44 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:38:44 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: Heiko Schaefer Message-ID: <20030508153844.GA1262@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <20030508142234.GA1359@laptop.6bone.nl> <3908.1052404777@critter.freebsd.dk> <20030508151810.GA72636@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> <20030508172630.C79286@daneel.foundation.hs> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030508172630.C79286@daneel.foundation.hs> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: data corruption with current (maybe sis chipset related?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 15:38:46 -0000 On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Heiko Schaefer wrote: > the thread i found in -current archives suggested that these flags work > around an amd-specific issue. now you say that a p4-based machine also > needs them to run stable. No, it's the other way around. It's an Intel bug, which also went into AMD products. It is also in the PIII, but because it is so subtle it was never triggered. > i am wondering more and more: why are these options not in GENERIC ?!? > ..if someone knows what he's doing he can always throw them out again. Because it is not (yet0 officially recognized. Terry mentioned that he explained it to Bosco, and that he had a patch to work around it in a different way. But that was from November, time has passed since then. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM