From nobody Thu Oct 7 15:10:46 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-multimedia@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0BE17EA9EE for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-ot1-x333.google.com (mail-ot1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQFCj4Jr2z3hbS for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-ot1-x333.google.com with SMTP id x33-20020a9d37a4000000b0054733a85462so7835886otb.10 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:11:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QKN5Sy+kVJqRJ4k0+M1WtkAhIk5IFzSSHV0NXExfNDY=; b=QpMpBkyhshL6aZpRkerQuXzWcBMTa7wKPHptwxGnSeXdtVtl7ogsZ6PAjpI+4naXQI vmgoZn62kD05MdiRuL9Sk4nQCiBkQI9l/FUEnH1Gqy0kICAQ4p7ZJy7BfG/jD/jyWIfV JJFnBrOdfU6uPz1bWCJkUTS6BvN2O/mzTZ1z2aBEcdhUU9xyx74oSgypbuCHHzPZl9uy 8fptA4VEOFlIITfiQcYRYKk+Wx5lbFcKkabxO2kwgwmVGYUiJPWG7kqZvmp9cGWz23eP qaw/LYeyvEO6atrXwLeBy4ldsxtbEZCCw23QSMmTtqhHZX8JwS8lpEQSVoR9z8HSJOkH gnbw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QKN5Sy+kVJqRJ4k0+M1WtkAhIk5IFzSSHV0NXExfNDY=; b=mJqP/ZgK1YKy80Nwfm/nbwxVDw8LLPx0C7/DdzxrzrZvPgVwPKFxhMh3NbvPGUcM2L IBqf/Xs/j8Bdci3WaYwTNXVnkW/MCEBPsCpLlBMVMqK/5zZ6cAk/GO2sqP+ud/zMWTfO a4fRrZovRzge29ojPo30PZOHfUUuZZJMNQyhoAxFW0XZG6L+RivFmHYlv4vCFhoQ8sCX 4RXiYdPW9z1CNBofSO7QWdTVnvZ5yq3C1sOUFHSWXl2BMtLPGgiBVXNAp0EP0X/FAwKA PCzc0yKTJEd+CdSVD8eusGh9gGmpKTvhOGhlHnI5Yva9NVbWSBMADQkP9fEsXK6gGu4D bb2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531UNEppVYxPEmkDMim2880bowTalA4XhvMEHtV0tXnxBD1Q0XjU tJMe4k0K6mVwZJ/FgdcisRFuULUDjtXvjsOyr5XukFc9p9I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx6X5i5aGkz7pZq/PxXKAxzL9Hzjw0Rz1HmxLk0yaiHjsuYIZfwpe65rnZ9x+9M9d+7DsAtThwQ2R8j0/wsepI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:20da:: with SMTP id z26mr4181808otq.359.1633619499184; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:11:39 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-multimedia List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202110041017.194AHqZ9085897@kx.truefc.org> <6323c7c6-1221-1bb4-6028-344fded44558@selasky.org> <202110041052.194AqeLc086237@kx.truefc.org> <9d9fcf6b-8c2d-8659-bd42-dfb61d2d74f7@selasky.org> <202110051033.195AXBsX059249@kx.truefc.org> <95138258-4c6b-92f4-fc56-45a4618edc8d@selasky.org> <202110051146.195BklYI092330@kx.truefc.org> <0b1ded5a-cfc8-1c2e-7920-eac257332298@selasky.org> <202110052229.195MTpav024388@kx.truefc.org> <202110070152.1971pxJ8061955@kx.truefc.org> <202110071201.197C1ATK068567@kx.truefc.org> <98204833-ee1e-4c2a-ab0d-cbbfff23faf7@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 17:10:46 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mic does not work with Zoom on Chromium 92.0.4515.159. To: Dave Cottlehuber Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQFCj4Jr2z3hbS X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=QpMpBkyh; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::333) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.994]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::333:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.69)[-0.694]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N I forgot to add that at least recently I had option to select Audio Backend in Chromium some time ago. Now I would have to recompile whole modern web browser that is even more complex and time consuming that the OS that runs the browser :-( Is there any good reason to remove PulseAudio backend from Chromium? What are the arguments? Is it possible to select backend like in Firefox? All those changes and problems and confusions keep me even more away from using Chromium. Tomek On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 5:07 PM Tomasz CEDRO wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 4:28 PM Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > > (..) > > funny, I find pulse audio infinitely frustrating. > > (..) > > your sndio tips help on my setup, now I can do audio confs in chromium, > > with appropriate x11 screen sharing [1]: > > (..) > > I do notice that lossless music (e.g. flac or similar) isn't sounding as crisp, though, compared to my mojo chord USB-DAC. But I can live with this for meetings. > > > > It would be nicer when this upstream firefox bug finally gets merged, and sharing a single monitor becomes possible: > > The worst part is most commercial web conferences forces users to use > Chrome, while Chromium is only castrated version of that. Not all > video conferencing work in Firefox. This is why I find JITSI Meet best > solution, it is also Open-Source. I stoppped using Chrome/Chromium > several years ago when each my request and search was sent to Google > even before DNS request. > > In Firefox I have FULL list of my devices, I can switch microphone on > the fly during the conference. I have PulseAudio backend and I can > also switch the sound ouput on the fly. > > It was possible in Chromium not that long ago, probably thanks to PA > backend. Now I have to play with terminal, environment variables, and > restart browser between each change. How is that better? > > The purpose of web video conferencing is quick meeting with focus on > the subject of the meeting. Each time some people even using windows > have some sound and microphone problems. Its like computers and > internets showed up 2 weeks ago. Unbelievable. > > Also I noticed recent change between oss/sndio and PulseAudio - one > card is 3 in pa while 4 in oss/sndio. That brings even more confusion. > So my configuration created for sndio on meeting last month is now > obsolete. This will touch you too one day. > > So many choices. What a wonderful world. > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info