Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:37:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= <trond.endrestol@ximalas.info> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lenovo Thinkpad E590T and AMD Radeon RX 550X (Intel UHD Graphics 620) Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1906141033490.6306@enterprise.ximalas.info> In-Reply-To: <186513e9-279c-b684-9f57-a01660cf7018@malikania.fr> References: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1906140921441.6306@enterprise.ximalas.info> <186513e9-279c-b684-9f57-a01660cf7018@malikania.fr>
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On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:12+0200, David Demelier wrote: > Le 14/06/2019 à 09:34, Trond Endrestøl a écrit : > > I'm considering adding 16 GiB of memory for a total of 32 GiB, and > > swap the 512 GB NVMe SSD in favour of a 1 TB NVMe SSD. > > NVMe is definitely awesome in terms of speed. My laptop boots in less than 3 > seconds (but not running FreeBSD though). > > > The laptop has both AMD Radeon RX 550X and Intel UHD Graphics 620. I > > didn't find anything conclusive on https://www.x.org/wiki/radeon/. > > Maybe I'm simply blind. > > > > TBH, I'd avoid double graphic cards. They are known to cause troubles on non > Windows OSes. Even Linux has troubles with them (but mostly nvidia). Running FreeBSD as a VM in VirtualBox is still an option. > > Is the Radeon RX 550X GPU supported by X.org and a particular driver? > > I don't think there are known problem with radeons cards. But some other > comments are welcome. > > > Does the presence of Intel UHD Graphics 620 cause any known issues? > > Intel is pretty much working out of the box. > > > Any other thoughts on Lenovo Thinkpad E590T? > > I personally have a X1 carbon 4th gen (2016) and I just love it. Thinkpads are > very good laptops with extreme good consumer support. > > I've looked on the french lenovo market and could not find E590T, only E590. > So I don't know the differences. I'd personally recommend one with the WQHD > resolution rather than full hd (2560x1440) because it's just awesome. Here's the one I have in mind, sadly the webpage is only in Norwegian: https://www.komplett.no/product/1124176/pc-nettbrett/pc-baerbar-laptop/alle-baerbare-pc-er/lenovo-thinkpad-e590t-156-full-hd# Thank you for your input. -- Trond. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 14 09:17:58 2019 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F039215CB55E for <freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (enterprise.ximalas.info [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1::8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ximalas.info", Issuer "Hostmaster ximalas.info" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25AD78ABF3 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) Received: from enterprise.ximalas.info (Ximalas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x5E9Hp09038756 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:17:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ximalas.info; s=default; t=1560503872; bh=Ns3yQ4oG9Vb+NAM1lIu0p7hwx8vPK3xMI9MWTR3RWvg=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=mqDQS9iRKmR+n0WyP2HBp0yvPjglMVhgif1l4mGysruN8aQ4Mb0CaLcGUj0kPuJup AAWfovshW7kxdNONKX5qYRk5qclbaJH79bRRHT/HdqXTJ58pV2wI0ss0xsf5EgYL1x u+vYKpTmygdJg9E9lX1Ch4VUC4sPlR79IryyPnoNBzfa7PkbFtKJNkuVun4bdBEV0L hQkYoGKDH47EQJcpD7pcI/zu3lV1Ca9fkwPHIVbSiTdmZp8iI5rHcqHi2kqX8li3T9 GjgIdSR3ZSUhwU11b5lS7TLZsikmtLnyAbUfLkYY3NgOxsJUPmjk2mljnYJgsQtal0 bDv0AxbIFL6Gg== Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by enterprise.ximalas.info (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x5E9HpoD038752 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:17:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond.endrestol@ximalas.info) X-Authentication-Warning: enterprise.ximalas.info: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 11:17:51 +0200 (CEST) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= <trond.endrestol@ximalas.info> Sender: Trond.Endrestol@ximalas.info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lenovo Thinkpad E590T and AMD Radeon RX 550X (Intel UHD Graphics 620) In-Reply-To: <d66e79963f1834e909a0d5b0be83c433bbef4ba1.camel@smormegpa.no> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1906141037280.6306@enterprise.ximalas.info> References: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1906140921441.6306@enterprise.ximalas.info> <d66e79963f1834e909a0d5b0be83c433bbef4ba1.camel@smormegpa.no> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.9999 (BSF 287 2018-06-16) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on enterprise.ximalas.info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 09:17:58 -0000 On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:19+0200, Matthias Oestreicher wrote: > Am Freitag, den 14.06.2019, 09:34 +0200 schrieb Trond Endrestøl: > > Hi, > > > > I'm contemplating buying a Lenovo Thinkpad E590T. I will be > > dual-booting Windows 10 and FreeBSD stable/12. > > Why stable? I'm running stable on my work laptop. Of course, I could be at the forefront and run current. Or should I stick to -RELEASE? > > I'm considering adding 16 GiB of memory for a total of 32 GiB, and > > swap the 512 GB NVMe SSD in favour of a 1 TB NVMe SSD. > > > > Is this laptop a wise choice? > > I'd advice against using a laptop for storage. Well, I don't plan on storing anything I can't afford to lose. I'm doubling the storage capacity to have enough space for both operating systems, some software, my Dropbox account, working copies of base and ports, and obj, distfiles, packages, etc. > > The laptop has both AMD Radeon RX 550X and Intel UHD Graphics 620. I > > didn't find anything conclusive on https://www.x.org/wiki/radeon/. > > Maybe I'm simply blind. > > Switchable graphics are not supported in FreeBSD. You will hopefully be > able to disable one of the graphic adapters in the laptop's BIOS(UEFI), > but if I where you, I would rather grab a model with Intel integrated > graphics only. Do you want to game on Windows? Yeah, that's part of my reasons for choosing this laptop. In addition I want a 15.6 inch display and a numerical keyboard. The graphics subsystem should be powerful enough to run Farming Simulator 19, Supreme Commander, Unreal Tournament 3, and a handful of astronomy related software, with good performance. > > Is the Radeon RX 550X GPU supported by X.org and a particular driver? > > The kms drivers graphics/drm-kmod has at least modules for Polaris 12, thats > what the 550x is build upon according to Wikipedia. Looks good. > > % ls /boot/modules | grep -i polaris12 > amdgpu_polaris12_ce_2_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_ce_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_k_mc_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_k_smc_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_mc_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_me_2_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_me_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_mec_2_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_mec_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_mec2_2_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_mec2_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_pfp_2_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_pfp_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_rlc_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_sdma_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_sdma1_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_smc_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_uvd_bin.ko > amdgpu_polaris12_vce_bin.ko > > Though, I don't follow the development and the there may exist issues. > Anyway, most Polaris based graphics cards work very well as far as I know, > but I've seen people complain about issues. Last thing I seen on the forums > was someone had a problem that the screen remained black. That was Polaris 8 > on a Ryzen processor, which isn't supported as well as the higher end models > as far as my knowledge goes. > > > Does the presence of Intel UHD Graphics 620 cause any known issues? > > Well supported by graphics/drm-kmod > > > Any other thoughts on Lenovo Thinkpad E590T? > > I havn't had any recent Thinkpad models myself, but I would always prefer a > used T-series over a E-series. Even though the E-series should be quite fine > as well compared to all other laptops series from Lenovo which I wouldn't > even touch with pliers. > You will most likely have to swap the wireless device. Right, the Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 9260 should be replaced by a Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265, or maybe something else. Any recommendations? Thank you for your input. -- Trond. 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I am using a gerneric installation 12.0 and types camcontrol sleep ada0 Every time I do that it will wake up afer some 60 sec. and writes somewhere I cannot find out. Do you know something helpful? It#s that I like the silence to read... greet Matthias
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