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DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[oracle.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: userp2050.oracle.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.net]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-3.52)[ip: (-9.87), ipnet: 2001:1900:2254::/48(-4.48), asn: 10310(-3.18), country: US(-0.09)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.899,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10310, ipnet:2001:1900:2254::/48, country:US]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS(0.00)[1983-01-06@gmx.net ..,freebsd-java@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[oracle.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 14:22:18 -0000 On 2018-12-04 21:52, Michael Osipov wrote: > Am 2018-11-27 um 20:28 schrieb Eirik Øverby: >> Hi, >> >> Realized I sent this from the wrong address to the wrong address .. >> sorry if this comes across as pestering! >> >> I hope someone can take a look at the below, or point me in the right >> direction. >> >> Wbr >> /Eirik >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Eirik Øverby >>> Date: 17 November 2018 at 12:24:36 EET >>> To: glewis@FreeBSD.org >>> Subject: Supporting the OpenJDK11 port to FreeBSD >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> we're a company that hosts all our code (payment- and authentication >>> stuff) on FreeBSD/Tomcat and we're being asked by our devs when we >>> can have OpenJDK9^H10^H^H11 support. Before you ask - no, none of >>> them are capable of porting anything - they couldn't care less about >>> the platform. > > Same issue here: running FreeBSD, Java, Tomcat, and surroundings like > Ant, Maven, etc. > >>> What would be the correct way to offer monetary (or other) support >>> to the FreeBSD/Java project in such a way that >>> - the money is well spent? >>> - porting efforts can get some priority and attention, soonish? >>> >>> Not sure what kind of support would make a difference here, but we >>> can throw all sorts of hardware at the project, and at least a >>> man-month or two if that's what it takes. > > I don't think that hardware will really help. What really helps is > someone who can assist Greg or contact the foundation and remind them > of [1], "Development of software for FreeBSD to benefit the user and > developer community, including contract development of critical system > infrastructure, porting of closed source applications such as > Java(TM)." with your donation. > > I talked with jmd@ about this gaining some traction for Java 11+ in > FreeBSD by joining AdoptAJDK and assisting Greg with this huge effort. > It just needs someone who will drive this. The first must be to get > all BSD related changes Greg and others have made into JDK8u, no more > bsd-port Hg repo. To get the BSD port into mainline OpenJDK will require: 1) passing the TCK 2) providing the infrastructure and resources necessary to continue having a functioning platform. This typically means having some kind of automated test sytem, running simpler tests (like the bundled JTREG test suite) on a regular basis, and TCK when needed. (At least once per release, more often if possible.) It also means having some engineer available that can respond to questions about how to fix things on that platform, and repair the build if it breaks. As far as I know, the FreeBSD Foundation has a TCK license, so it's more a matter of getting up a CI system, and having someone with enough time at their hands that can be responsible for the OpenJDK contact. /Magnus > > Would you take on this? > > Michael > > > [1] https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/overview/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"