From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 28 13:25:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8870E37B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3.acsu.buffalo.edu (smtp3.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.6.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8278E43E75 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cd9@buffalo.edu) Received: (qmail 12075 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2002 20:25:35 -0000 Received: from ubppp233-175.dialin.buffalo.edu (HELO selvirjin.buffalo.edu) (128.205.233.175) by smtp3.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 28 Aug 2002 20:25:35 -0000 Received: from dragon by selvirjin.buffalo.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17k9N3-0001rK-00; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:24:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:24:57 -0400 From: "C. A. Daelhousen" To: Siegbert Baude Cc: FreeBSD Questions LIST Subject: Re: mtools vs mount Message-ID: <20020828162457.A7000@selvirjin.buffalo.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Siegbert Baude , FreeBSD Questions LIST References: <20020826220454.P1757-100000@dhcp-402-55.san.rr.com> <20020827075718.A3273@selvirjin.buffalo.edu> <3D6B82A9.3000904@gmx.de> <20020827170149.C3712@selvirjin.buffalo.edu> <00f201c24ea6$32c05b80$406a3c86@whwurm.uniulm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00f201c24ea6$32c05b80$406a3c86@whwurm.uniulm.de>; from Siegbert.Baude@gmx.de on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 05:18:43PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 05:18:43PM +0200, Siegbert Baude wrote: > > > Note that on a *blank* floppy, no long names are found, so short names > > are assumed. So if the archive is put on a blank floppy mounted > > short-name in the first place, then no amount of "mount -l"ing later > > will recreate the long names. > > If you would have read the man snippet instead of deleting it, you would > have seen, that longname is the default _except_ only short names are > already found on the floppy, when mounting it. At least that is my > understanding of the man page. At one time or another, I observed the behavior I described; perhaps 4.6-STABLE regressed at some point during the summer. The man page for 4.6.2-RELEASE appears to be accurate and in agreement with you. > > > I don't have any bare DOS machines, so I don't ever use short names; > > therefore, the longnames option in /etc/fstab is more convenient and > > useful. (And it's not in with the -l/-s options in the manpage.) > > Seems to be a good idea. The only thing is maybe, that you won't be able > to read the disk on plain DOS? Sorry, I didn't test this, and it > probably doesn't concern many people nowadays. > Long names are backwards-compatible, it's just an annoya~1 to me to have the names change. > > > > If you didn't have anything useful to say to me, don't reply to me. Go > > back up the thread for that. > > If a clarification, including the service of the relevant man snippet in > case you can't reach a FBSD machine, where you're reading mails, is a > faux-pas in your opinion, I deeply excuse for having done so. BTW, > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=826558+0+current/freebsd-qu > estions seems to indicate, that I sent my offending message to Peter > Leftwich, just cc-ing C.A. and the list, as I always believed to be good > practice on this list, as you never know, which of the participants in a > thread are subscribed to the list. > I don't understand where -s/-l do anything to "clarify" mount options in /etc/fstab. Man pages are on FreeBSD.org, and this is the most popular way to point to them (at least over the duration I've been reading the list.) That said, I was rather rushed/irritated when I read your message. I'd given it priority reading time because it was CC'ed, only to discover it didn't seem to say a thing about what I said, and was filled with extra fluff to prove it was right. So I'm sorry for tearing your throat out--you may have it back if you wish ;) -- ..: Chad Daelhousen == cd9@buffalo.edu :.........: sig v3.1 :... : Programming for 10 +/- 2 years (50 +/- 10% of a lifetime) : :.............Perl will be the first to implement mind reading.: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message