From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Apr 26 14:28: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from wolf.cian.net (tnt-6-206.easynet.co.uk [195.40.201.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E8A1547F for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c.raven@ukonline.co.uk) Received: from ukonline.co.uk (localhost.cian.net [127.0.0.1]) by wolf.cian.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA01471; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:27:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from c.raven@ukonline.co.uk) Message-ID: <3724DA42.99A26EFF@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:27:30 +0100 From: gurab Organization: CIAN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: Nicole Harrington , "advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Hopkins FBI] References: <3724B945.1A2ED6BE@ukonline.co.uk> <3724D149.7DEDD047@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters wrote: > > gurab wrote: > > > > You assume children play this type of game? > > > > I'd say you were very much mistaken, this type of game is aimed at a > > (very) late teen - early twenties (and upwards) age group and that for > > sure is not kids. > > Only someone still a child himself would make this assumption. Without feeling the need myself to descend into name calling (perhaps a reflection on MY own maturity) I would point out that the game in question is not an action or arcade game, but in fact a thinking, puzzle type game. As such it would tend to lean toward an adult (or at least more mature young mind) audience - IMHO. So ok, its made in a *slightly* OTT manner, but so what? A balanced mind has no problems with that. However, not having your deep and educated insight into such matters I will bow to such vastly superior knowledge as you are attempting to display. > > > Also, to make so bold a leap and in the face of most current scientific > > opinion on these matters is itself somewhat naive. By that I mean > > blaming *violent* games for unbalanced children. > > And this wonderful scientific opinion has produced the utopia we now > live in. Gee, that's a comforting thought. > Indeed, my own sentiments exactly. However, seeing such *modern* child raising practices in action around me every day and, on the whole, with not inconsiderable success (fancy not even hitting your own children - my, my, what is the world coming to?) I would say that you only get out of interpersonal relationships that which you put into them. > > Its the moral minority that screws up children's heads IMHO not computer > > software. If the parents aren't interested / able to raise their own > > children to be productive and well minded young adults, then that is > > their (and subsequently society's) problem. A bad workman will always > > blame his tools. > > It is the lack of shame and limits in our society that screws up everyone > associated with it, not just the children. Your failure to understand > this just reiterates your skewed viewpoint, the result of decaces of > unfortunate social engineering. > On the contrary, I feel myself to have a very open mind on these subjects, something which you appear not to have. Problems in society source from many avenues and to pinpoint one exactly is somewhat foolish. By highlighting the failings of parents in the raising of their children, I cover quite a few bases. I will admit that there are other and significant sources of social decay - but as this is not a social science forum I would suggest we terminate the discussion here. > That doesn't mean FreeBSD should be not explored as a gaming platform, > however. How 'bout a nice sailing simulator? > This discussion was never about gaming on FreeBSD, who ever said it was? -- A computer is for life, not just for Christmas http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD ..... anything else is computer cruelty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message