From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 20 12:25:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8386537B419 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b149.otenet.gr [212.205.244.157]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3KJPD5q003303; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:25:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3KJPD76002424; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:25:13 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3KFwPOc001428; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:58:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:58:25 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: Peter Leftwich , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip Message-ID: <20020420155825.GB1199@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020420022630.C88054@mail.webmonster.de> <20020419203037.S39174-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020420031459.A88998@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020420031459.A88998@mail.webmonster.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ Moved to -chat, since this is no longer a security thing :P ] On 2002-04-20 03:14, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > Peter Leftwich(Hostmaster@Video2Video.Com)@2002.04.19 20:50:16 +0000: > > I always log in as root - The thinking is... rm doesn't scare me > > one bit! :) > > sensing some amount of irony here, yes a new user logs in as root, > because he got a "blank" system, with (hopefully) limited userland. > i doesn't matter how many times you tell him "no do not log in as > root", he will understand it when he executed his first more complex > shell command containing "rm" ;-) Which almost invariably is ``rm -fr /'' or similar ... ... while the Windows partitions are mounted read-write too. Ah, you got to love this Murphy guy ;-) Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message