From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jun 9 18:45:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28806 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28797 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 18:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id VAA26175; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA13259; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:45:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 21:44:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Michael Smith cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, token@wicx50.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: REQ: help from Emacs/XEmacs/Jove/Jed/... users In-Reply-To: <199706100047.KAA02439@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Chuck Robey stands accused of saying: > > > > I did that once, if you remember, Jordan, but there was some other > > objection to pico. Don't remember what, but if it got cleared up, I'd > > prepare pico once again. I still think, for newbies, it's easily the best > > editor out there today. > > It's too big. This was the original complaint, and it hasn't gotten > any smaller since. Zile sounds pretty good by comparison. Yeah, except the default command set just isn't as obvious to newbies. That's the reason pico is such a good editor for them, it just works, even for idiots. Yeah, I now remember the size thing, so because I don't feel like fighting that battle again, I will let it drop again, and FreeBSD can stay unfriendly for them. > > > > Jordan > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ > ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------