From nobody Tue Oct 12 14:55:50 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E359C1806419 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from h2.pinyon.org (h2.pinyon.org [65.101.20.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HTJdC0MwMz3K4k for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 14:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcarter@pinyon.org) Received: from [10.0.10.15] (unknown [10.0.10.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by h2.pinyon.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57B9516BF6 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:55:51 -0700 (MST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pinyon.org; s=dkim; t=1634050551; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7kpKESuJ/dSx/n1bxNbQNnlkugPmm4r5N4FJmHx7QO8=; b=boz/lJ+lezCGKtN1P0B4xoSq/00n8F5zghjSVmi+mr72wNY7nc9Bq+qkUOM3mYD3UT4kRO bNT8fH8NK1yowR8nxEyR1VGbf6uYhvY2seCoP+Bz+CHP59CJ/QpRXSrK3y7K6Bd5jfd0f1 vh5P7Q2xLft1P21txCjk4keo7bxbyUo= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:55:50 -0700 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 Thunderbird/91.2.0 Subject: Re: best software for managing multiple freebsd & linux machines ? Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4df3c511-c549-55af-8045-86b1f8e1613f@boosten.org> <35ADF5FE-E05D-428B-AD96-D8D231067C29@boosten.org> From: "Russell L. Carter" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.79 X-Rspamd-Server: h2 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HTJdC0MwMz3K4k X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=pinyon.org header.s=dkim header.b="boz/lJ+l"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rcarter@pinyon.org designates 65.101.20.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rcarter@pinyon.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[pinyon.org:s=dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[pinyon.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[pinyon.org:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.101.0.0/18, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Quite relevant to this discussion is today's HN topic "Solo-preneurs, how do you DevOps to save time?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838132 I see I'm not the only one who has fallen back to "spooky arcane oldhat sysadmin deploy techniques" I have to admit that I enjoyed watching my complex saltstack automation work, until it didn't. Russell On 10/11/21 22:56, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > > On 10/12/21 07:37, freebsd@boosten.org wrote: > >> I actually did install minions in every jail (17!). > > <:-O > > > >> But of course you pay the price in used memory and CPU cycles. > > ... and disk space, etc... > > Really, I tried this and I'm not going back to it :( > > > >  bye & Thanks >     av. >