From nobody Tue Sep 28 15:48:06 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-mips@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E3D17DD888 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (spindle.one-eyed-alien.net [199.48.129.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HJkRq2WcYz3l9s for ; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: by spindle.one-eyed-alien.net (Postfix, from userid 3001) id C2EBF3C0199; Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:48:06 +0000 From: Brooks Davis To: tech-lists Cc: freebsd-mips@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if mips gets dropped Message-ID: <20210928154806.GG63086@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to MIPS List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-mips List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-mips@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HJkRq2WcYz3l9s X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 03:00:12PM +0100, tech-lists wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 08:31:00AM +0200, Janne Johansson wrote: > >Seeing how dropping mips is suggested (and I don't have anything to > >say about the actual decision in itself), > >https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch/2021-September/000068.ht= ml >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I've asked on that list to clarify if they mean just mips or if they're > also including mips64. As Warner followed up on -arch, we'll be removing both 32 and 64-bit. > A few years ago I tried getting freebsd onto a mips64 (octeon) device > (it's an edgerouter lite 3) but failed. I found it was supported more > completely on OpenBSD and installation was relatively straightforward, > and the instructions are very thorough. >=20 > On OpenBSD it's supported so well it'll do binary upgrades. >=20 > Regarding "old" hardware: this device really isn't "old". I think I got > it about 5 years ago. It's had OpenBSD running on it for the past 3-4 > years or so and it is *so stable* I'm very happy with it. This is definitely the route I'd suggest people take. OpenBSD has a much more active port. The closest ours has had to active maintenance has been from the CHERI project and our focus has not been on router platforms. We've been willing to accept hacks to make the platform semi-usable that other maintainers didn't like and only run on FPGA implementations of CPUS and qemu rather than on commercial hardware. -- Brooks --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJhUzk1AAoJEKzQXbSebgfAyEoH/1QtJ8ET4/vuc/HvCwiYo6wG JJ7fkb5a8/CKbQgrelrCebA0Xn11UJN6wDGYw0/xN4UAGjAX5EvlDU2PVe9pKBnM TC5/OYl59AggS8q1tMPUv2PC8R6RAmLtKNqTV3d4FVyKKZQem3Wkk7pobdwoItu4 OeJ1pGMqnPsHzB1ViL40a+B9e5MBrYFBT3AzeoNSIQxZnoyrvS2tsYghO6bP1EQj TCpTdRpYn4tJmggp2TTryrl4JbZNdFcxvHLW9V1dOZjJUGzR92YE2fwZRdapRrcl oaVdgNCJytqjYdNXlIcVOjsMed/ciwHZnB2UkXi4NtQcOcR+XyV7pv6MRS1YbpM= =DRfL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT--