From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 20:01:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429E716A4CE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586A743FE5 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 20:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wegster@mindcore.net) Received: from mindcore.net (rdu163-100-105.nc.rr.com [24.163.100.105]) hA640ihf005051; Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:00:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3FA9C762.6020608@mindcore.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:00:34 -0500 From: Scott W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Duvall References: <3FA8E237.6080703@debank.tv> <20031105175505.GA303@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <00dd01c3a3cb$adf18100$f901a8c0@ws21> In-Reply-To: <00dd01c3a3cb$adf18100$f901a8c0@ws21> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Shantanoo Mahajan Subject: Re: creating a small FreeBSD box X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 04:01:06 -0000 Rick Duvall wrote: >I use a little box built by Intel in my house for my DSL. It's an ITX >formfactor chassis. It has 1 ethernet on board and 1 PCI slot where you can >put a second NIC. There are no drive bays, so you have to take the machine >apart to plug a temporary CD-Rom drive into the motherboard to install the >OS. In my case, I already had a hard drive with FreeBSD loaded on it, so I >just transplanted the drive into the ITX chassis. > >As far as hard drive, it's hard to find 300M drives anymore. Your best bet >would be to go for the least expensive drive you can, even if it is a 20 gig >IDE. Nothing says that you can't have a 20 gig drive and only use 300M of >space on it. Sure, it's a waste of drive space, but who cares if you only >pay $40 for a drive that has a 5 year warranty. > >You also might want to look at solid state filesystem. I think this has >been discussed on the list from time to time. Then you only have to worry >about cooling fans. > >Sincerely, > >Rick Duvall >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Shantanoo Mahajan" >To: "Rob Evers" >Cc: >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:55 AM >Subject: Re: creating a small FreeBSD box > > > > >>+++ Rob Evers [freebsd] [05-11-03 12:42 +0100]: >>| Hi all, >>| >>| I need to make a few FreeBSD boxes, these will all be limited in disk >>| space, >>| and act as firewall/router. (pentium and 300M disk) >>| What I want is a limited operating system that has only the essential >>| networking stuff, shell, and a custom kernel but for example no BIND and >>| CVS. >>| In the end all machines should have the same OS installed. >>| >>| What's a good way to handle this? >>| Making a custom release, an install script, tweaking make.conf and >>| install from >>| source or of course something else. (I don't need a ready solution, but >> >> >some > > >>| insight in how to acomplish this task in an efficient manner.) >>| >>| Thanks >>| >>| Rob Evers >>| >>| >>| ------------------------------ >> >> >>man picobsd >> >>Regards, >>Shantanoo >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > FWIW, solid state disks can definitely be pretty slick- was working on a hardware project at a company years ago and testing different hardware configurations, RAID stripe and segment sizes, differences in cache size, etc etc, and we saw some pretty decent speed gains in playing around with solid state disks. At the time, it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 10k for ONE drive, but with the dot-com bust and for a smaller disk, there may be some good deals to be had on solid state < 1GB disks (eBay?) Anyone price those used lately or have any longevity concerns? (Never did run one for more than a month or two, but it SHOULD be more reliable than physical platters...) Scott