From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 4 16:12:19 2001 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 4 16:12:13 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDFF37B400; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA49326; Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:12:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:11:58 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Hovey To: Chris Andrews Cc: jim@osd.bsdi.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Please change this In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or to be able to tell what an email message is and what a web page is. On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Chris Andrews wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your response. I did look at the page prior to sending the email. > Unfortunately, search engines and the internet in general does not > categorize these things - copy is copy. And I have to presume that whoever > "owns" the site controls the copy. > > My other choice was not to send the email to you at all, and we are held to > some strict guidelines as owners of the trademark in terms of working to > contain usage to appropriate usage. > > We "do have a clue" here, but it is a challenging task to have a goal of > clarity in something as cloudy as the Internet. > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Mock [mailto:jim@osd.bsdi.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 3:47 PM > To: Chris Andrews > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Please change this > > > On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 at 15:31:50 -0800, Chris Andrews wrote: > > TO: WEBMASTER OR PERSON WHO CONTROLS YOUR WEBSITE > > > > It has come to our attention that you are using the term "Livecast" > > on the page referenced below, and possibly other pages. > > > > > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2000/freebsd-multimedia/20000123.freebs > d-multimedia.html > > Did you even bother looking at it? If you did, you'd notice the URL you > specify above is to a mailing list archive. The word "Livecast" is > mentioned because the poster says: > > news flash: > > I just got livecast to connect and remain connected with a > Lvl: value indicating my audio level, this is unusual. > > > Livecast is a registered trademark that is owned by Livecast, Inc. We > > would like to ask you to please change Livecast to a generic or > > industry term such as "webcast" or "live webcast." > > So you're against people saying they have Livecast working? Heh. > > > Although this might seem like a minor matter to you, it is important > > to us that the Livecast trademark be understood by the public in an > > accurate manner. Your page gets referenced by search engines which can > > confuse the public. We have had to continually police the use of > > Livecast on the Internet, including recently filing a trademark > > infringement lawsuit in federal court against CNN/SI. > > What does this have to do with the message? This tells me you didn't > even bother looking at the page you referenced. > > > Please change this page(s) on your website, and if you would email me > > back when the change is completed, I would appreciate it. If you also > > re-submit your website to the major search engines, then that will > > ensure that the public gets up-to-date content from your site when > > they do searches. > > This is not part of the FreeBSD.org web site per se -- it is an archived > email sent from a private individual to a mailing list. FreeBSD.org has > no say over the content of the messages sent to its lists and has no way > of preventing the word "livecast" from being mentioned in mail to its > mailing lists. > > - jim > > -- > jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org > http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message