From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 23 07:57:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08274 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:57:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08263 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:57:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no (2602@gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.86]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id QAA22361; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:57:14 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by gnipahellir.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:57:12 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: nik@iii.co.uk Cc: "Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=2C?= \"Jordan K. Hubbard\"" , Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A day in the life of a hacker (was: Re: 'Code Freeze') References: <11036.890349578@time.cdrom.com> <19980323094611.21526@iii.co.uk> Organization: Gutteklubben Terrasse / KRST / PUMS / YASMW X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 23 Mar 1998 16:57:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: nik@iii.co.uk's message of "Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:46:11 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 42 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA08269 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk nik@iii.co.uk writes: > On Sat, Mar 21, 1998 at 05:46:11PM +0100, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote: > > [make world story] > You haven't merged in changes that have been made to the /etc directory. > This may bite you later. You also haven't updated the /dev directory, which > may also bite you later. Oh, yeah, right, I forgot that I am a complete idiot, have no idea how FreeBSD is designed and have never made world before. Gee, sorry, Officer. I'll be more careful in the future. Nik, you are *not* the sole authority on 'make world'. Other people also have brains. Other people also have a long experience with FreeBSD. Other people sometimes even read their cvsup logs and keep track of what has changed since their last make world so they will know what needs to be done. As its subject line suggests, my article was *not* technical. It was simply meant as an entertaining "success story" to cheer up Jordan with. It was not meant to reflect precisely my procedure for 'make world'; it doesn't even get close to telling half the story. I did not tell about reading cvsup logs to see what had changed; I did not tell about diffing /usr/etc/rc* to see what had changed before installing them; I did not tell about making sure my /etc/fstab complied with the new conventions. > > > is definitely worth a read (typos and all, I've just spotted a couple, rats). You forgot to enclose this in ... . Frankly, I find your 'make world' guide (yes, I did read it, at about the time you first put it up) overconservative and overproblematizing, though it contains much useful information. Did it ever occur to you that it might actually scare people away from 'make world' instead of teaching them how to do it? -- fprintf(stderr, "I have a closed mind. It helps keeping the rain out.\n"); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message