From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Wed Jun 20 15:53:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048031020A96; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-f44.google.com (mail-it0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A5B0811A0; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:53:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 188-v6so296672ita.5; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dygelkcvzKirwgc7EP5sxXYpgJX9Dna6eJXDYvRZZ9s=; b=KYsYHeLWA0l3XlibyioRR0ehkgP+OaVYWxbo9HyyETVh+0aGSL02tgo8e9s4+rXW4f H/SvQigfxQYzJucgTFYDU4fkoZc888ged8xhdNVOg+3Zlo1Jj62lA8hUbOJ7HhlnwQMM UiJDxM8SRPW3wictvAGfiLkSsPVUnV2oKzdfAvtZNW4ttBHdIp6y1B5lIo0+yUdVmnqE BazWbBhgdLN9Gbhs+f1AvuH4JePAjRlit2SYDIt3TSAefyQ99xinH4atSPmLat++55Ux XGOxp52krhOY/0j6IEV6cG0DOLWGvBd2tk9DghlH+Q8XJ4/PkyTFVwvI4FMcQEbgHcAA Jblg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E141dc5oYebWYqSzuHEwSJUSSHsa2LcMnxAL+q2s/PX96COcg5V 0DNQodZ+Hd2vAJe33lSXpJaI5vRj X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKL19a4ol8Cbw2S8kDbG299j4xNs7PMqPcWMsCk4Q7pkLlI43dMptQz9wwOOy4iEX8ILfnv6tQ== X-Received: by 2002:a24:9ec5:: with SMTP id p188-v6mr1991553itd.79.1529509554384; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-f176.google.com (mail-io0-f176.google.com. [209.85.223.176]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k8-v6sm1002497ioj.55.2018.06.20.08.45.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-f176.google.com with SMTP id f1-v6so167660ioh.6; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:45:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a6b:1a53:: with SMTP id a80-v6mr17106473ioa.143.1529509554006; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:45:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org Received: by 2002:a02:5995:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:45:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <17033.1529508519@kaos.jnpr.net> References: <201806200108.w5K18sIR050132@repo.freebsd.org> <96021.1529475664@kaos.jnpr.net> <17033.1529508519@kaos.jnpr.net> From: Conrad Meyer Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:45:53 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r335402 - head/sbin/veriexecctl To: "Simon J. Gerraty" Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , "Stephen J. Kiernan" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:53:03 -0000 You can keep these poor security modes in your downstream product if you want, but don't put them in the tree. On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >> With all due respect, NIST is hardly the sole authority on this topic. > > True, unless of course you sell to US govt. > >> With my IETF Security Area Director hat on, any greenfield proposal coming >> in >> to the IESG that included sha1 support would get extremely strong pushback, >> and I don't expect that "reducing boot time" would be seen as sufficiently >> compelling. > > Well that's unfortunate, because reality (and sales teams) can be a > pain. The number of customers who would trade boot time for improved > security is depressingly small. >