From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Oct 11 18: 1: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C82237B502 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04559; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:57:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr09.primenet.com(206.165.6.209) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAjKaaMi; Wed Oct 11 17:57:29 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA11291; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:00:40 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200010120100.SAA11291@usr09.primenet.com> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf To: dillon@earth.backplane.com (Matt Dillon) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:00:40 +0000 (GMT) Cc: mbendiks@eunet.no (Marius Bendiksen), arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200010111905.e9BJ59X21786@earth.backplane.com> from "Matt Dillon" at Oct 11, 2000 12:05:09 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > :Why not make them turned on by default, and make a package which makes > :your system secureish? Such a package can be installed from the usual > :sysinstall procedure. > > There's being 'reasonable' and there's being 'unreasonable'. This > type of argument doesn't wash when the reasonable thing to do, with > the availability of ssh, is to make things 'reasonably secure' by > default. You can't ask for more, but neither should you require > less. The lowest common denominator is not telnet or ftp any more. I'd like to know where to get ssh for all of the boxes I have, and for which I currently have telnet and ftp available. I won't list all 12 of them here, unless you request it. Or is it just the boxes that you have which are important in the market, period? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message