From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 21 00:18:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB816A421 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-multimedia@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D528D13C468 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-multimedia@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IYSI7-0007zs-AN for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:06:29 +0200 Received: from r5j156.net.upc.cz ([86.49.9.156]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:06:27 +0200 Received: from gamato by r5j156.net.upc.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:06:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:03:39 +0200 Lines: 56 Message-ID: <46F2D21B.7000707@users.sf.net> References: <46ac6c33.8zupQvEYO9dYFsZV%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: r5j156.net.upc.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070821 SeaMonkey/1.1.4 In-Reply-To: <46ac6c33.8zupQvEYO9dYFsZV%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Sender: news Subject: Re: audio CD's in SCSI drives -- syntax? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:18:02 -0000 Joerg Schilling wrote: >> I think it might be worthwhile throwing out cdda2wav as the reference >> tool completely and instead rewrite the tutorial to feature cdparanoia, >> which is pretty much the state of the art ripping utilitiy these days >> (and has been even longer on Linux), works with device names rather than >> unit numbers for SCSI drives as well, does in fact not require the >> specification of any device by default as it will autoscan for devices >> and just use the first one it finds and finally is used as the ripping >> backend by nearly all modern GUI ripping utilities. > > Please try to inform yourself to avoid writing incorrect claims...... > > Cdparanoia started as a patch on cdda2wav in 1997. It did never improve it's > CD-DA code and for this reason, it's CD-DA properties are based on what > cdda2wav could do 10 years ago. The code is full of non-portable parts. > > Cdparanoia died in 2001. > > For this reason, I did pull out it's essentials and created a portable > and bug-fixed version of the paranoia code as "libparanoia" in 2002. > Then cdda2wav has been enhanced to use the libparanoia code. > Since 2002, cdds2wav it definitely the best choice for CD audio extraction. > > Monty did a great job when creating the code that is in libparanoia but he is > no longer interested in cdparanoia. > > Cdda2wav reads CDs that cdparanoia won't read at all and it usually even does > not need a dev= parameter at all! This is something Monty did try to implement > a long time but never was able to devliver. Cdda2wav in attition writes a > summyry line for each track that tells you whether there are audible problems > in the extracted data. > > Do you really like to give up maintained code in favor of a dead program? > > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/ > > Jörg > Joerg, I can see the following in man cdda2wav : -paranoia use the paranoia library instead of cdda2wav's routines for reading. Now I'm not sure how to use that state of the art extraction -- with or without -paranoia parameter ? And BTW why are there two methods of extraction, why not to have only the better one ? Cheers, Martin