From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 18:46:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3874EA62237; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 18:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohauer@gmx.de) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A77E61365; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 18:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohauer@gmx.de) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([87.139.233.65]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Man6U-1aWX2J3YWQ-00KR9K; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 19:46:18 +0100 Subject: Re: svn commit: r405234 - in head/mail/postfix: . files To: Adam Weinberger References: <201601041033.u04AXQsP045550@repo.freebsd.org> <6905C58D-FB6E-4FAA-9E83-2FDD0CCDDFD7@adamw.org> <568BF4A9.6080000@gmx.de> <2E5E495E-E977-4544-B419-EB58E096C092@adamw.org> Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org From: olli hauer X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <568C0FA8.6060205@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:47:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2E5E495E-E977-4544-B419-EB58E096C092@adamw.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:50ZEkLk5DUeLUtc2II7IBT6FC8FbKVOOJjmoEcD8BUMfkK8XKoG B3qscU/xzGhSbF7TTUYVU/8KZXOSj+Vdb6tpC316tDL+yWobXXe5r6yDYmcidH3wmRATQvW z6dukQJwx8hLATYb1ntbQIpiGwaKBQr/Q+6T2AYZ/sHMEwjm0RhLf5WmyWd9Nlh0230cuUG ECofP0hqGRTxWuj3F33fg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:J88nFrHcOT4=:6PANZXZaTLtOxnQhNJ9wUD XECa76RgWnwhf76+W7giq/8E/ohp8EQoDtp33iwig4qr57vZyXFOUGztuLC23dto35ch6sj3W ZkEFDqEyO5dFq2+oeihHomzBvTNiGw3UK06e2D3GVCe83n8aoM0nNpIn8eVN9ADCCYoRx4BU2 uWnxip4qm8VMAsQeTFhv7q7ZefB8cZYrapGD+dsMc2VK4sr+UTpTFRBC3arHLny0NmmsX4zNH bI34/vx4ymzP3a6hiMvnJlpA4QjWw9ozWfmZ7VFHinxkhOH1IKImNyjx983n6o/IHu0VExfkO ztKquLVedOqF0LkewAjvY0KbSIWoMbLWHnIKghdCnv/EzkW+unn4R7f74lfJHApycnw9cFKCR RXJM2goONSrwH9fojWsknQGiVVPYGiP5Qp7FI1iXHjJ0MWIr42tm8LvP89PFGrnu6FjV31xVh 2JoviTP7gG5FS0IONnGSBb+zj7/OiIKioR7FnXh5+B8DdtYuB5WjohGe4A38dBb5TMciPeUv7 jtQ4sAtdpLl9qwUZGsdcWgdX3zeZ35NZp86DDYq4MeubGBFMGLYj+uiuLephuQsl51eLTbk6P kDUejVg9ayqmVBWbJu4/XhjXtz9PSwJpFew+M5uo2s4GmkpD1yri5q9ERlysHb2Op7c1NQmyq tcboRQ1aHaGTHVcSnivdGFIgdy/Adi43sf8dDhq4vk0zR3/S6uibUZ/INPK9H0UP/FHFuY5bB BpCiUmWcbYLPljXVfUev+jWLCq7H+OPN6Pd2ZfkKyxyCcwP0qd49QZhtaSvgIiECUuCDg7Om3 S7ips5O X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 18:46:25 -0000 On 2016-01-05 19:25, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 09:51, olli hauer wrote: >> >>> On 2016-01-05 17:11, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> >>>> On 4 Jan, 2016, at 3:33, Olli Hauer wrote: >>>> >>>> Author: ohauer >>>> Date: Mon Jan 4 10:33:26 2016 >>>> New Revision: 405234 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/405234 >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> - rework pkg-install and pkg-message [1] >>>> >>>> -If you not need sendmail anymore, please add in your rc.conf: >>>> - >>>> -sendmail_enable="NO" >>>> -sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >>>> -sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >>>> -sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" >>>> - >>>> +Run the following commands to enable postfix during startup: >>>> + - sysrc postfix_enable="YES" >>>> + - sysrc sendmail_enable="NONE" >>> >>> Hi Olli, >>> >>> rc.sendmail(8) says: >>> sendmail_enable >>> The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be >>> used. It will be removed in a future release. >>> >>> To future-proof the pkg-message, you might want to keep the original 4 _enable="NO" commands in there. >>> >>> # Adam >> >> Hi Adam, >> >> ups, thanks for the hint! >> >> If this short form will go away (announced already since FreeBSD 5.0) we have to fix also all other mailer, where I looked what thy are telling the user. >> >> I have more concerns that at some time sendmail and *mailwrapper* will be provided as dedicated (pkg) package for the FreeBSD OS and we have to fiddle this out in the pkg-install script ... >> >> If you like I can change it back to the 4 lines instructions (but I would tend to 'rm' the 'NONE is deprecated' statement from rc.sendmail) > > I had no idea it had been "deprecated" for that long! I agree with everything you said. NONE makes far more sense than having to use four separate directives. > > A pkg keyword would definitely be best though. It would be nice to have every MTA handle mailer.conf in the same, predictable way. It is a bit of dilemma, I looked at the code from mailwrapper with the idea to extend the lookup say for mailer.conf.local and if that is found ignore mailer.conf but I'm concerned on a high volume system it creates to much needless IO if the server is running sendmail from the Base OS. PS: After I've seen the UCL slides from Allan Jude I've send him a PM with the suggestion to add mailwrapper to the UCL candidate list ;) -- Regards, olli