Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:47:04 +0100 From: olli hauer <ohauer@gmx.de> To: Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org> Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r405234 - in head/mail/postfix: . files Message-ID: <568C0FA8.6060205@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <2E5E495E-E977-4544-B419-EB58E096C092@adamw.org> References: <201601041033.u04AXQsP045550@repo.freebsd.org> <6905C58D-FB6E-4FAA-9E83-2FDD0CCDDFD7@adamw.org> <568BF4A9.6080000@gmx.de> <2E5E495E-E977-4544-B419-EB58E096C092@adamw.org>
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On 2016-01-05 19:25, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 09:51, olli hauer <ohauer@gmx.de> wrote: >> >>> On 2016-01-05 17:11, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> >>>> On 4 Jan, 2016, at 3:33, Olli Hauer <ohauer@freebsd.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Author: ohauer >>>> Date: Mon Jan 4 10:33:26 2016 >>>> New Revision: 405234 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/405234 >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> - rework pkg-install and pkg-message [1] >>>> >>>> -If you not need sendmail anymore, please add in your rc.conf: >>>> - >>>> -sendmail_enable="NO" >>>> -sendmail_submit_enable="NO" >>>> -sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" >>>> -sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" >>>> - >>>> +Run the following commands to enable postfix during startup: >>>> + - sysrc postfix_enable="YES" >>>> + - sysrc sendmail_enable="NONE" >>> >>> Hi Olli, >>> >>> rc.sendmail(8) says: >>> sendmail_enable >>> The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be >>> used. It will be removed in a future release. >>> >>> To future-proof the pkg-message, you might want to keep the original 4 _enable="NO" commands in there. >>> >>> # Adam >> >> Hi Adam, >> >> ups, thanks for the hint! >> >> If this short form will go away (announced already since FreeBSD 5.0) we have to fix also all other mailer, where I looked what thy are telling the user. >> >> I have more concerns that at some time sendmail and *mailwrapper* will be provided as dedicated (pkg) package for the FreeBSD OS and we have to fiddle this out in the pkg-install script ... >> >> If you like I can change it back to the 4 lines instructions (but I would tend to 'rm' the 'NONE is deprecated' statement from rc.sendmail) > > I had no idea it had been "deprecated" for that long! I agree with everything you said. NONE makes far more sense than having to use four separate directives. > > A pkg keyword would definitely be best though. It would be nice to have every MTA handle mailer.conf in the same, predictable way. It is a bit of dilemma, I looked at the code from mailwrapper with the idea to extend the lookup say for mailer.conf.local and if that is found ignore mailer.conf but I'm concerned on a high volume system it creates to much needless IO if the server is running sendmail from the Base OS. PS: After I've seen the UCL slides from Allan Jude I've send him a PM with the suggestion to add mailwrapper to the UCL candidate list ;) -- Regards, olli
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