From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 27 8:38:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA7D158DB for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ip@albatross.mcc.ac.uk) Received: from albatross.mcc.ac.uk ([130.88.202.16]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 10n2Ei-0002HU-00; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:38:24 +0100 Received: (from ip@localhost) by albatross.mcc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA42453; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:38:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ip) From: Ian Pallfreeman Message-Id: <199905271538.QAA42453@albatross.mcc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: stupid question: how do I cancel a PR? In-Reply-To: <55586E7391ACD211B9730000C1100276179624@r-lmh-wi-100.corpnet.at> from Ladavac Marino at "May 27, 1999 12:30:56 pm" To: mladavac@metropolitan.at (Ladavac Marino) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:38:23 +0100 (BST) Cc: ip@mcc.ac.uk, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Reply-To: ip@mcc.ac.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I think the subject line says it all, although I'm tempted to include > > a long > > and angry rant about useless engineers, shite hardware and the bad > > attitude > > of the management at "europe's premier research supercomputer > > facility"... > [ML] Please, do tell [follow-ups redirected to -chat] Rather than rant, let me seek wisdom. How on earth do you folks deal with the problem of people who are infected to the point of insanity with the idea that computers crash all the time? How do you convince a person whos only experience of computers is Microslop software that you an operating system shouldn't crash unless there's some hardware problem? Or that just because a PC happily runs Win '95 that it doesn't mean it'll function as a high-volume mail hub or web cache? How do you get though to people that replacing one lot of crap memory with another lot of equally crap memory from the same supplier doesn't mean that it "must now be a software problem" when it still doesn't work? Oh well. I think I'll just go for another ultra-cynical .sig and get back into my box. Ian. -- Network Unit, Manchester Computing, The University, Manchester, UK. mail: ip@mcc.ac.uk | phone: +44-161-275-6006 | fax: +44-161-275-6040 "Europe's Premier Research Supercomputing Facility" We'd rather be down for a week than spend $50 fixing hardware. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message