From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 5 1:40:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDF137B401; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 01:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from male.aldigital.co.uk (male.aldigital.co.uk [213.129.64.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AAD43EB2; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 01:40:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@algroup.co.uk) Received: from warandpieces.wessex.aldigital.co.uk (geology.thebunker.net [213.129.64.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by male.aldigital.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E6E986AF; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:40:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from algroup.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by warandpieces.wessex.aldigital.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB59eDdP000716; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:40:19 GMT (envelope-from adam@algroup.co.uk) Message-ID: <3DEF1EFD.7010200@algroup.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:40:13 +0000 From: Adam Laurie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vinum documentation References: <3DE244ED.8000903@algroup.co.uk> <20021125224557.GJ41068@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3DE353C7.5080704@algroup.co.uk> <20021126232050.GB21404@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3DE5EAA0.4030009@algroup.co.uk> <20021129020137.GC8307@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3DE74326.7080302@algroup.co.uk> <20021130005821.GD17834@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3DE87950.6000201@algroup.co.uk> <20021204233907.GA91963@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Saturday, 30 November 2002 at 8:39:44 +0000, Adam Laurie wrote: > >>Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> >> >>>>describe the procedure for unplugging the external chassis from >>>>machine A, and plugging it into machine B, and bringing up the vinum >>>>RAID without re-initialising it (i.e. preserving the data already on >>>>it). >>> >>> >>>1. On machine A, stop Vinum. Depending on the hardware, you may need >>> to shut down. >>>2. Remove the chassis from machine A. >>>3. Connect the chassis to machine B. Depending on the hardware, you >>> may need to shut down. >>>4. If you haven't rebooted machine B, run camcontrol rescan on the >>> SCSI bus to discover the new disks. >>>5. Run 'vinum start'. >> >>are you saying that at this point vinum will scan all disk busses and >>decide for itself that the raid exists, and reconstruct /dev/vinum? > > > Yes. > > >>i know you've said in a previous post that /dev/vinum "isn't >>important", but since it contains mount points etc, i assume it's >>reasonably vital... anyway, our experience when we complete the >>steps above was that /dev/vinum/raid1 etc. didn't exist, so we >>couldn't mount the volume, which is why we went on to perform the >>other steps i described. > > > It looks like you got confused at some point. It's unlikely that you > can still reconstruct what happened. yes, i think you are right. however, it is clear to me now why we got confused... since we didn't understand the relationship between vinum and it's devices, we didn't expect it could work until the devices existed, so went down the route of trying to create them before attempting a vinum start... since this unusual relationship isn't explained in the docco, it might be worth adding a paragraph on /dev/vinum and/or a one-liner in the 'start' section to say the devices will be created if they don't exist already... anyway, thatnks for your help in resolving this. it has been most useful. cheers, Adam -- Adam Laurie Tel: +44 (20) 8742 0755 A.L. Digital Ltd. Fax: +44 (20) 8742 5995 The Stores http://www.thebunker.net 2 Bath Road http://www.aldigital.co.uk London W4 1LT mailto:adam@algroup.co.uk UNITED KINGDOM PGP key on keyservers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message