From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Fri Nov 16 17:55:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E50511007D7 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd29.google.com (mail-io1-xd29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9DE089351 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd29.google.com with SMTP id j18-v6so5624227iog.6 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:55:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=issg7mUIlJgImKg6ElPQ0LH9+PD7kVIgv+oPzvp6ZyA=; b=GYhTllNvgePMogRxcCX7utNJyI4xC9vJ8qehWIfUb1ZRmN3Nt/ZkgnpKOwY/ttvd56 ckAQ7ITIAjY55fDIu28qOus6d9X5wf/EBqgokpryXFBgmdSPHcasfwPV5yRfaHPio5vP GvmFZiAr2hj4xHhrPEpe4zjY5Fy5fyguFKPr3OUBvTLM7mEKwjcJkc7EOOmHJW+VEEK3 LYRWIS47/J6TcjYYLamLwvrvRrop6Xh9CFx5espb2ERTZlmStV2Xbn8gdugIC+FwKu42 WKJ2+y9pC8ICSjilHSOFW05CJCH31KIQt1NU5+u+i3jqZh/DmNkk1bqR7alb1QhAZpv3 2kCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=issg7mUIlJgImKg6ElPQ0LH9+PD7kVIgv+oPzvp6ZyA=; b=GhF2TQx4ksE3x/ClUzs2lA1dB1ZwPh076xEKkpiT4QDAEqhSHQPG6tMoZzUxYwV1md XdBqhNd1pKlT/UjWhgIM/9fFhhkZw0s2qp5qoGmnQYFvbpexGl52UeSn/s9IH5pm5Mks 2MVnAYbRlJ3TJAGpkxs1dYj9EvgkrnQ0zmmp22gcobFgc+6gMMF/FvQx79MOekeB2x5/ LW2fIsa/aVv/Zc47teTlfqUqThoma+/OYOU0llTl4NsuLShH9pFZ6aLmO0SBdJAdUH5/ mSY4+wTM0fmRVJHlegVn+nVkxjp2D7veT4ETEF+WBnUfr3sa6FPCoxIE51qmKmhg5fSg dDiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKcSZpwH1BP+iFem6GktrAS884geSzrypHVIPys+wjrjc7d6Rbl 0F6gKDWa6XGft5/X++8ppFhv/y972Of5l77W+wSDeA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/UL8Ou3XXTLbAFvpUAMpE+era92SLzYuQkCIdeA8rMIMFz3qLyahUQYQVhrKOsozsIU5iDgSOXJ94ogflqiZJc= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:8614:: with SMTP id z20-v6mr9554063ioj.37.1542390932044; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:55:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201811161429.wAGETSqh030439@repo.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201811161429.wAGETSqh030439@repo.freebsd.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:55:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r340478 - head/share/man/man7 To: 0mp@freebsd.org Cc: src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B9DE089351 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.30 / 40.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[svn-src-all@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT1.aspmx.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.976,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.32)[ip: (-7.01), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.67), asn: 15169(-1.82), country: US(-0.10)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 17:55:33 -0000 On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM Mateusz Piotrowski <0mp@freebsd.org> wrote: > A few years ago jilles@ proposed changing reboot's default to signalling > init (preserving reboot -q which just invokes the reboot system call), > but > this was not accepted. Perhaps this can be tried again for 13.0. > I didn't like it at the time, however I was wrong. Much of my reasoning for doing it has become muted as well since then, and the need to do it has become more amplified as more rc scripts have grown shutdown functionality... I think if we make what's now reboot 'fastreboot' or 'reboot -q' (both of which are historic replacements), we can make 'reboot' what's now 'shutdown -r now'. Warner