From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 14:56:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from atkielski.com (atkielski.com [161.58.232.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF3737B405 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by atkielski.com (8.11.6) id fAKMueZ00223; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:56:40 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <012701c17216$9e31df00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "setantae" Cc: References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120061026.A2767@prayforwind.com> <014601c171d2$22ada240$a50410ac@olmct.net> <008a01c171fa$7110be90$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120200746.GA80963@rhadamanth> <00c101c17204$4070bb50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120224137.GA82211@rhadamanth> Subject: Re: home pc use Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:56:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ceri writes: > That's not the situation you described though, is it? It's exactly the situation I described. > You said : > `` I would not run any X server on a large system > with many users connected; let the users gobble > resources on their own workstations, not on the > central system.'' > > If, however, you are running the X server on the > same machine, then the server and workstation are > one and the same. Yes, and if there are other users connected to the machine, then the situation I described obtains. > However, I think you are failing to realise that > the X server and the workstation are always one > and the same. But the workstation and the server (the server being the UNIX system running the clients) are not. I meant server in the sense of the central system serving many users. > Each user runs their own X server. If the user is running the X server on the console of his FreeBSD system, then everything is running on a single machine. This appears to be the way many people do it, from what I've read here. And so a multiuser timesharing system is essentially being used as a simple desktop. Kind of like using MVS as an adding machine. > I'll say it again, in case you still don't get it : > The X server runs on the workstation. But the workstation and the UNIX server are usually one and the same, in the configurations being discussed here. If you are running KDE, typically it is running on the console of the same machine that runs the X clients, as I understand it. So everything is running on one machine ... just like a desktop. I supposed you could split things over two machines, but is anyone really doing that? To run a GUI, you need intimate communication with the hardware. > As in, each user runs their own X server on their > own workstation, the machine that all the users they > are logged into doesn't run an X server at > all, it runs X clients. These two machines may be one and the same. > KDE isn't an X server, it's a window manager, > and in the situation you describe above, it's > the X client. Yes, this has been pointed out to me; my mistake. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message