From nobody Tue Aug 26 09:16:11 2025 X-Original-To: current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cB28Y2D6Dz65HTY for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cB28Y1Sskz3lfl; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756199773; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=lelQpBNpXdA7Tx8lzcrIdABIswXrH8uBFX/cD7zg/W8=; b=w68SvIw/ljczx2aJpuT7TC83sldC0Ypdc45eeblnvwvph3WoQvemu4UmWcKypUWeZdFgDE DenRaDSVHVPTUQgqieMMGtcE52iIoXTCvuUOyBnErKoR4qc2NotDRLS+vM4f/Weq8o90P1 ZUIf5NQkT7j8e1D7U6uwh/4FIkGRhIUsxWMfhywAeKqBlnUw9glM/Iun8D6F2bHKVraqoI 8P4qFx6VnDHX3v2jUbVB/tTRacKh7QxQ+2I9AALst6B4oZijPJ+2TQwmUJwmFL6/R8oIY8 7hE2LP5l5HD5NRbcevX77ApDRDFBsJvziuGOYwCRO8OSCn2jGtXyqXKoOFAp+A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756199773; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=lelQpBNpXdA7Tx8lzcrIdABIswXrH8uBFX/cD7zg/W8=; b=DguMdQ7kUAetFarOo68Z66EknZ0LwjRBQrwpvZuqtdmxDzsJ/fg1q+OmRP3A2qvRrgo9/l ifKg6cNCAJyex81nGvNTqCjeIXmpkjxH3R99lTdf5YGZP9I6haC4pssOCgUviYk89euOVl /8aQU+5fTdyAeFqMssX6NbZFi+c8EdJslZqSGl5PIjhghQu7QTdwagQYAj81mmnppnSQW6 C2CXdUEW9Z/JdHp4b5c8TdCLbiu7aaLef/+nJH9QgZFDrdC2akJwpDsCOkwK2fbsV+OyKF HAzwwq8f8nYJQ08GVh21TNwmCt02ZQEqcv9d4Fa7x6M/9EiaJAhEIZewl+EyGQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1756199773; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=hBoZ6P7KBy+Y5e+Uu+k6vHkyMioNlh8FVO0Yapkhz8GZcNXSKUvVjVior73Ue3STWRKfO4 RTOA03oe5UqbNfzDcGSHoWmuwhzRpujVxskoFhFu7u3oO4j9eNnER5Kom7+HwYZLkI6LXg o4j/cy9a7AXG6KQo3fUepwik62F4oLbd1SnnxwbLePRP8cuCY9pItARc8BM+KiBn/RgxbA aKeLPHx5yzMCel+d724W64YTr5i4XM8NBzOxgTpHD00GcrUFRSM6uN9eNVG349bXYIHuvi +xyGfL9jHwqOIGFbFNrmfZe5qdvQ2PwC+HBvYtrS5+zrLsU6KQdUPOxgxSlOeQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ltc.des.dev (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:c54:bed0:922e:16ff:fef1:acef]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cB28Y08zzzNsq; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D77A13BFB3; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 11:16:11 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Olivier Certner Cc: Warner Losh , Kyle Evans , Alexander Leidinger , Marcin Cieslak , Xin LI , Current , Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: UPDATING stuff In-Reply-To: <4075052.kAAoriTUSa@francois> (Olivier Certner's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2025 10:22:17 +0200") References: <2r579os7-29n7-890r-9210-s3s1n4r0s4qo@fncre.vasb> <2398435.mfXeX5GmMH@francois> <86ms7nv1tv.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <4075052.kAAoriTUSa@francois> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 11:16:11 +0200 Message-ID: <86a53mv3xg.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Olivier Certner writes: > Did you bother carefully reading and understanding what I wrote, as > well as the mails I referred to, before replying? I did, yes. Have you considered that perhaps your point wasn't as well made as you think it was? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org