Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 12:36:08 +0100 From: Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org> To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@freebsd.org> Cc: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Stefan =?utf-8?B?RcOfZXI=?= <se@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who uses calendar(1)? (was: svn commit: r553259 - in head/deskutils/calendar: . files) Message-ID: <20201027113608.fvoypze5ybac4zal@aching.in.mat.cc> In-Reply-To: <20201027025712.GD19841@eureka.lemis.com> References: <202010251146.09PBknxk016101@repo.freebsd.org> <202010251435.09PEZ2i1004175@slippy.cwsent.com> <20201026012126.GB19841@eureka.lemis.com> <202010260137.09Q1bYKB004543@slippy.cwsent.com> <20201026030214.GC19841@eureka.lemis.com> <202010261359.09QDxF8D076951@slippy.cwsent.com> <20201027025712.GD19841@eureka.lemis.com>
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--xjtalip626lcgbw4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:57:12PM +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 26 October 2020 at 6:59:15 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <20201026030214.GC19841@eureka.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Le= hey" > > wri > > tes: > >> > >> > >> --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii > >> Content-Disposition: inline > >> > >> On Sunday, 25 October 2020 at 18:37:34 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > >>> In message <20201026012126.GB19841@eureka.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' = Lehey" > >>> wri > >>> tes: > >>>>> Anticipating the next step: removal of calendar from base, entirely. > >>>> > >>>> It's a bit late for that. We discussed this at length (too much > >>>> length for some people) on arch@, and we came to the agreement that > >>>> the base calendar(1) is a Good Thing, and only the data files needed > >>>> to go somewhere where they can be shared amongst projects. > >>>> > >>>> FWIW, *all* OSs that I've seen, with the possible exception of > >>>> Microsoft, have calendar(1). It serves a useful purpose. What's yo= ur > >>>> problem with it? > >>> > >>> The Linux distros I know of don't provide it, even as an optional RPM. > >> > >> The machine I have access to, running Debian Testing, has it > >> apparently as a standard installation. Nobody on the system had asked > >> for it. But yes, I was surprised, too. > > > > At $JOB we maintain about 1500 Linux, Solaris and AIX servers, with a f= ew > > Linux and FreeBSD appliances, the remaining 8000 being Windows and a > > growing number of OpenShift containers of which I lost count. The > > workstations are gone, though many of us propeller heads still maintain > > VirtualBox VMs for our own use. (I personally rather use git on a Linux= or > > FreeBSD machine than on Windows -- management decision.) > > > > Why I mention all the details above is that my clients never ask for a > > calendar utility. Their contractors who develop containers haven't eith= er. > > That world is gone. >=20 > For them, maybe. You don't say who your clients are, just the > platforms they use. >=20 > >>> IMO it's usefulness is questionable, especially with the multitude > >>> of tools that already do the same thing. > >> > >> There is? I haven't found anything similar. That was one of the > >> things we discussed on arch@, but we came up empty-handed. If you > >> could come up with links, that would be very useful. > > > > Today's tools use iCalendar files and protocols. >=20 > That sounds like Apple. Do we have something non-graphic that works > on FreeBSD? And note that even Apple supplies calendar(1) on Mac OS. Sure, there is deskutils/py-vdirsyncer to sync calendars/contacts, deskutils/py-khal for calendars, and deskutils/py-khard for contacts, to name a few. --=20 Mathieu Arnold --xjtalip626lcgbw4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEVhwchfRfuV0unqO5KesJApEdfgIFAl+YBiRfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDU2 MUMxQzg1RjQ1RkI5NUQyRTlFQTNCOTI5RUIwOTAyOTExRDdFMDIACgkQKesJApEd fgJhjBAAgayHH3L6omS+ffjp9mRoLKXYiQ2dFPLXPoSsPweCe02+KWGlkbE0VyN9 iyy5nqF0EOI6MlWUVk6Q4bzSonC87KZHZu0FLeNvXHVT89LTbCjUkbcL2aB6rRK8 McSneFdfr4QRj3N1EPjYqKC6vi1nheUZfYYCvx2vgciHl1CfdqIqziprqf6dIW52 19NTd4xlnBt3NeQy3ej6yGo4/lmWwcjXXRhTh9TmQidUOZBNgPVeoDaPZyNrJ+FM 6BxiD0x1uDqezBaB1q+SysalIkrANqDV1X0H4tLQMieWNou4Rz4BbZGU2INQPAhH 49jvtDWZArwuK3vT8CD7aTR0umscxvFtaogzqcmQ3DMm/KKSVFLvNMjCBIWQDvxi x/gSPqSvJxWIyb2l63ong0uwYtTHH5Sf3Dt5J28fRGnYgeKNhcKd23J963MmBmlk SlJ+D7bx75B1bAOthhRz6DVIQ4+TCl6UQGi0Dawl/NUoo1tATku3L3fKmz6H9Mic g2VZr0XcVlyEEXyHbX0rLQOW7DK57q6Pxg8WuxjoOe7Hupwz9fyXnGPKqqNKDRBM 91nid1NlC2MtDOIqamvbZutH9HSmxR+WmWr81nwkDm46cZIjHeDFVo51q6pbZ/JL DHkbFW+oijnP2rsopriuhewgJ39k82A9TqgUhxBj2SqS7wKZu7M= =gfDB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xjtalip626lcgbw4--
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