Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Tue, 27 Oct 2020 12:36:08 +0100
From:      Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>
To:        Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Stefan =?utf-8?B?RcOfZXI=?= <se@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Who uses calendar(1)? (was: svn commit: r553259 - in head/deskutils/calendar: . files)
Message-ID:  <20201027113608.fvoypze5ybac4zal@aching.in.mat.cc>
In-Reply-To: <20201027025712.GD19841@eureka.lemis.com>
References:  <202010251146.09PBknxk016101@repo.freebsd.org> <202010251435.09PEZ2i1004175@slippy.cwsent.com> <20201026012126.GB19841@eureka.lemis.com> <202010260137.09Q1bYKB004543@slippy.cwsent.com> <20201026030214.GC19841@eureka.lemis.com> <202010261359.09QDxF8D076951@slippy.cwsent.com> <20201027025712.GD19841@eureka.lemis.com>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help

--xjtalip626lcgbw4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:57:12PM +1100, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Monday, 26 October 2020 at  6:59:15 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > In message <20201026030214.GC19841@eureka.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Le=
hey"
> > wri
> > tes:
> >>
> >>
> >> --Md/poaVZ8hnGTzuv
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
> >> Content-Disposition: inline
> >>
> >> On Sunday, 25 October 2020 at 18:37:34 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> >>> In message <20201026012126.GB19841@eureka.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' =
Lehey"
> >>> wri
> >>> tes:
> >>>>> Anticipating the next step: removal of calendar from base, entirely.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a bit late for that.  We discussed this at length (too much
> >>>> length for some people) on arch@, and we came to the agreement that
> >>>> the base calendar(1) is a Good Thing, and only the data files needed
> >>>> to go somewhere where they can be shared amongst projects.
> >>>>
> >>>> FWIW, *all* OSs that I've seen, with the possible exception of
> >>>> Microsoft, have calendar(1).  It serves a useful purpose.  What's yo=
ur
> >>>> problem with it?
> >>>
> >>> The Linux distros I know of don't provide it, even as an optional RPM.
> >>
> >> The machine I have access to, running Debian Testing, has it
> >> apparently as a standard installation.  Nobody on the system had asked
> >> for it.  But yes, I was surprised, too.
> >
> > At $JOB we maintain about 1500 Linux, Solaris and AIX servers, with a f=
ew
> > Linux and FreeBSD appliances, the remaining 8000 being Windows and a
> > growing number of OpenShift containers of which I lost count. The
> > workstations are gone, though many of us propeller heads still maintain
> > VirtualBox VMs for our own use. (I personally rather use git on a Linux=
 or
> > FreeBSD machine than on Windows -- management decision.)
> >
> > Why I mention all the details above is that my clients never ask for a
> > calendar utility. Their contractors who develop containers haven't eith=
er.
> > That world is gone.
>=20
> For them, maybe.  You don't say who your clients are, just the
> platforms they use.
>=20
> >>> IMO it's usefulness is questionable, especially with the multitude
> >>> of tools that already do the same thing.
> >>
> >> There is?  I haven't found anything similar.  That was one of the
> >> things we discussed on arch@, but we came up empty-handed.  If you
> >> could come up with links, that would be very useful.
> >
> > Today's tools use iCalendar files and protocols.
>=20
> That sounds like Apple.  Do we have something non-graphic that works
> on FreeBSD?  And note that even Apple supplies calendar(1) on Mac OS.

Sure, there is deskutils/py-vdirsyncer to sync calendars/contacts,
deskutils/py-khal for calendars, and deskutils/py-khard for contacts, to
name a few.


--=20
Mathieu Arnold

--xjtalip626lcgbw4
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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=gfDB
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--xjtalip626lcgbw4--



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20201027113608.fvoypze5ybac4zal>