From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 19 13:48:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF0116A402 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F07213C4B9 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 2265 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2007 13:54:40 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 2258, pid: 2262, t: 0.1404s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.88.5/m:43/d:3125 Received: from 208-70-43-54.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.105?) (dave.list@pixelhammer.com@208.70.43.54) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2007 13:54:40 -0000 Message-ID: <462772FE.5080205@pixelhammer.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:47:42 -0400 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list References: <499c70c0704162200s15b0bf28oa939100c19c34b44@mail.gmail.com> <499c70c0704182059y41dbeb3aobf520522e94ee750@mail.gmail.com> <1176988640.1208.5.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1176988640.1208.5.camel@zoot.mintel.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:48:57 -0000 Tom Evans wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 06:59 +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: >> On 4/18/07, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >>> On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote: >>> . . . >>>> Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS when it >>>> comes to web media. >>> I hope they kill each other and take the whole >>> retch-media enhanced web experience with >>> them flaming into the pit of hell from which >>> they came. >>> >>> But that's just my opinion. >>> >>> References: >>> http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood >> I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore it. >> >> Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps like >> stocks prices ..etc. > > Google Maps works just fine without flash - why would you want to > constrain your viewport to some poxy applet control? > If I want to watch a video, I want to use mplayer, not Firefox, > >> Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD. > > I write web applications for a living, and quite happily ignore the > steaming pile of excrement that is rich media applets - the number of > 3rd party browser addons whose sole purpose is to disable flash > reassures me that I'm not alone in this view > What FreeBSD needs is a program to display a map just like Google, MapQuest, Yahoo, etc. Except, here is the kicker, make the map "correct". I used an online map for the first time in two years last week, it was wrong. I stopped and picked up a new RM Atlas on my way home. I am afraid I must agree with Mr. Evans, rich media is a comedy. Back in 1998 everyone was screaming "it's the content dummy!". That is still true today, and still gleefully ignored by most. Just so long as it is pretty, uses [web|i|e]-, or wins a Weby, the content is meaningless, and no one seems to care. Sorry, I'll go sit in the corner again. DAve -- Three years now I've asked Google why they don't have a logo change for Memorial Day. Why do they choose to do logos for other non-international holidays, but nothing for Veterans? Maybe they forgot who made that choice possible.