From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 5 07:23:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA10463 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hercules.datafocus.com (smtp.datafocus.com [204.255.0.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA10450 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 07:23:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwex@DataFocus.com) Received: by hercules.fairfax.datafocus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: "David E. Wexelblat" To: "'Bruce M. Walter'" Cc: "'devel@XFree86.Org'" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: interested in working on windows port (sorry for cross post) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:23:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Exceed is Hummingbird's product, isn't it? Or is there something else with the same name as the Hummingbird product? They certainly do have Windows NT support; we ship it (optionally) with NuTCRACKER, and it supports both WinNT and Win95. Note that single-window mode and fullscreen mode aren't the same thing. I'm pretty sure Hummingbird does single-window mode; I know several others do. I'm not sure that any of the PC X servers do true full-screen mode. I'm not at all saying that we shouldn't do single-window mode. I'm saying (a) that multiwindow mode is awfully important for a Win32 X server, and (b) I have been told by people who write these things for a living that DirectX in a window doesn't produce any performance benefits over GDI unless you are in fullscreen mode. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce M. Walter > Sent: Monday, January 05, 1998 10:16 AM > To: David E. Wexelblat > Cc: 'devel@XFree86.Org'; hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: interested in working on windows port (sorry for > cross post) > > On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, David E. Wexelblat wrote: > > > 1) From what I have been told by more than one PC X server > > manufacturer, DirectX is going to be a waste of time. DirectX > > only gets major performance improvements when it can take over > > the entire screen. When running in a window, it's not a major > > win over raw GDI code. As far as I know, none of the PC X server > > vendors use DirectX. > > > > [...] > > > > I have never seen anyone use anything other than multi-window mode > > (well, > > we do have a couple of ISVs selling turnkey boxes, who I have been > told > > do use single-window mode). > > Exceed for 95 does full-screen quite well. In fact, I can't stand it > any > other way ;) > > Being primarily a Unix developer with certain Windoze requirements I > need > an environment where I can switch between the two in an instant. With > Exceed in full-screen mode, you can't tell this is a Windoze box until > you > hit -... The price tag and lack of NT support are my only > big > bones to pick, although nice fast MPG animations would be nice. > > IMHO, doing a version without full-screen capability would be a > mistake. > > - B > > ====================================================================== > == > || Bruce M. Walter || 107 Timber Hollow Court #335 > || > || Senior Network Consultant || Chapel Hill, NC 27514 > || > || Fortean Technologies, Inc. || Tel: 919-967-4766 > || > || Information Technology Consultants || Fax: 919-967-4395 > || > ====================================================================== > == > || BSD Unix -- It's not just a job, it's a way of life! > || > ====================================================================== > ==