From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 18 04:14:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D016A41C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB7143D49 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:14:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5I4EjJj052251; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5I4EhJt052250; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:14:43 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Marcin Jessa Message-ID: <20050618041443.GA52211@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20050617211950.GA41720@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20050618023335.0f7d9b45.lists@yazzy.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050618023335.0f7d9b45.lists@yazzy.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replace /rescue/vi with mined(1) from DragonFlyBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 04:14:46 -0000 On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 02:33:35AM +0200, Marcin Jessa wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:19:50 -0700 > Steve Kargl wrote: > > > I have taken mined(1) from DragonFlyBSD and integrated into the > > FreeBSD source tree. This is a very lightweight full screen > > editor with builtin support for cons25 and xterm. Yes, it is > > limited in its capabilites compared with /rescue/vi, but saves > > use 360 kB of diskspace and it does not require a termcap file. > > Great, this will make a good alternative for embedded systems. phk has tersely spoken out against mined(1), so I doubt it will ever meet the FreeBSD src tree. From my search, I've found that /rescue/vi has been present since 29 Jun 03. PR bin/80256, which notes that /rescue/vi needs a termcap file, was opened on 22 Apr 2005. After a short discussion (see PR audit trail), a 4 kB termcap file was stuck in the PR and there it sits. So, we can conclude (1) that no one uses /rescue/vi, or (2) /rescue/vi alsways works because a panic usr will never ever destroy /usr/share/misc/termcap, or (3) the entire FreeBSD user base is familiar the arcane ed(1). -- Steve