From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 27 08:50:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC3916A424 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:50:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: from smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05EAF43D4C for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:50:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mikej@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 9782 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2006 08:50:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bj6O74DH+kpwjUepO2n3KAjCHsacxCKMLVIouQw4ItAjq12C8tqRAmtzhsSdMo6rk9HGIaeEWMHpQPljLxwvz3yCAqjAllE4thud4rf32dDEY3UXR+RjdY165P8x25ZJyDn0HLCdcsB7npgdcfPuXnCtRZRpCB0uEN7gIBi44k4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?70.30.133.184?) (mikej@rogers.com@70.30.133.184 with plain) by smtp103.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2006 08:50:20 -0000 Message-ID: <43D9DECF.2060101@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:50:23 -0500 From: Mike Jakubik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20060127045553.F36B34503E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20060127045553.F36B34503E@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: current@freebsd.org, Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com, Ian FREISLICH , arch@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: [TEST/REVIEW] CPU accounting patches X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:50:22 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: > Good accounting is very important to some, but the issue of dealing with > reduced clock speed is almost certainly of no issue when it comes to charging > for computer use. I can't imagine any reason someone would be paying for CPU > time on a processor not running "full out". > > The only time that this might be an issue is when thermal management takes > over. I'd hope that thermal management would never kick in on a commercial > compute server, but, if it did, the customer should, at least, only pay for > the number of seconds the job would have run had it been properly cooled. > (Actually, he should probably pay less as his time is also being wasted.) > As a user from the 2.x days, i would much rather have the great increase of context switching performance than super accurate cpu accounting that i will never use. FreeBSD needs to focus on performance now.