From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 01:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8B91065675 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D518FC14 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 01:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V1oWPt086275; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:50:27 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Kent Message-ID: <20080531015027.GA20420@thought.org> References: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: DAve , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 01:50:33 -0000 On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 02:04:51PM -0700, Kent wrote: > On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote: > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote: > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > > > > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > > > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > > > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > > > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > > > > > > DAve > > > > You got it, man. At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least > > that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go > > blind if I stayed there for very long. (I so *enjoy* being able > > to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or > > DVD or whatever. And get out!) > > I hate the over use of flash and etc. I sometimes think that is similar to > putting a pdf file on a website instead of using txt. It bypasses some of the > quirks and you see what they want you to see. > > > > > This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for. --But then, I > > really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage. > > I use Adobe's GoLive but they killed it for Dreamweaver. If it had been a > modest upgrade price, I would have upgraded but I didn't. > > > > > The reason for the strange display was a bad comment. So at > > least I've learned something! Now www looks fine from ffox, > > opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so > > have to wait for wife. Or see if friends reply who use IE. > > > > I have IE 7, Firefox, Seamonkey, and Safari on my main XP machine. I can't see > any obvious difference. I also can't see any obvious difference between > Firefox and Konqueror on FreeBSD and the XP browsers. > > FWIW, IE seems to complain on many of the sites I visit. It has a little > comment on the status bar to the effect of completed but with errors. I > didn't see it on your site. Thw "bad comment" I was referring to was a markup comment: My blunder was It wiped out a lot of stuff that firefox displayed correctly, possibly talking the EOL as the close-of-comment. ...Sometimes I wonder about myself! gary > > Kent -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org