Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 13:59:21 -0800 From: paul beard <paulbeard@gmail.com> To: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Posting Style Message-ID: <CAMtcK2qpa524dHch-FqXSCNSuAd22wdxG4R4ggQG7MqovsZnBQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAD2Ti2-mUgApnukW=Aj2YzX1P4TVS6f5mQ3wXRSfV2TR=VjULA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20221106222404.ew2xhposne7aesvw@freebsd> <CAD2Ti2-mUgApnukW=Aj2YzX1P4TVS6f5mQ3wXRSfV2TR=VjULA@mail.gmail.com>
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--0000000000000eda4205ecd46cf3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000eda4205ecd46cf2" --0000000000000eda4205ecd46cf2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 1:48 PM grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/6/22, Joe B <jb1277976@gmail.com> wrote: > > What is recommended here on the mailing list? > > Bottom posting or topo posting? > > Bottom, always, since dawn of email, for many reasons. > > Reasons and examples of which that volunteers are still > welcomed to create the missing Handbook section on. > > > Mail app iPhone > > If this app actually disallows even manual editing of the text > being replied to in order to put it into proper bottom form, then... > > 1) Tell the maker of it to fix that, or to become opensource, or > you will leave and take your money usage and eyeballs with it. > 2) Follow through and leave for opensource apps and platforms > that you can buy use donate contribute and support. > > > neomutt on my BSD laptop > > There are now at least two "Linux phones" on the market, > and numerous phablets, such that neomutt can run on them. > And since they are often ARM64 based, and run Linux, > there is no reason that BSD cannot be made to run on them. > > Volunteers are free to create and run that campaign :) > > The iphone app doesn't prevent you from bottom-posting anymore than gmail does=E2=80=A6they just drop you in at the top and you have to make the effo= rt which I don't always remember to do. A third option here, to replay after all included text or after the most recent reply, would be useful. [image: Screenshot 2022-11-06 at 1.54.59 PM.png] and then there is this chestnut=E2=80=A6 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? --=20 Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --0000000000000eda4205ecd46cf2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 1:48 PM grarpa= mp <<a href=3D"mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">grarpamp@gma= il.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;borde= r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 11/6/22, Joe B <<a hr= ef=3D"mailto:jb1277976@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jb1277976@gmail.com</a>= > wrote:<br> > What is recommended here on the mailing list?<br> > Bottom posting or topo posting?<br> <br> Bottom, always, since dawn of email, for many reasons.<br> <br> Reasons and examples of which that volunteers are still<br> welcomed to create the missing Handbook section on.<br> <br> > Mail app iPhone<br> <br> If this app actually disallows even manual editing of the text<br> being replied to in order to put it into proper bottom form, then...<br> <br> 1) Tell the maker of it to fix that, or to become opensource, or<br> you will leave and take your money usage and eyeballs with it.<br> 2) Follow through and leave for opensource apps and platforms<br> that you can buy use donate contribute and support.<br> <br> > neomutt on my BSD laptop<br> <br> There are now at least two "Linux phones" on the market,<br> and numerous phablets, such that neomutt can run on them.<br> And since they are often ARM64 based, and run Linux,<br> there is no reason that BSD cannot be made to run on them.<br> <br> Volunteers are free to create and run that campaign :)<br> <br> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div>The iphone app doesn't preven= t you from bottom-posting anymore than gmail does=E2=80=A6they just drop yo= u in at the top and you have to make the effort which I don't always re= member to do. A third option here, to replay after all included text or aft= er the most recent reply, would be useful.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><= img src=3D"cid:ii_la5w88r00" alt=3D"Screenshot 2022-11-06 at 1.54.59 PM.png= " width=3D"507" height=3D"94"><br></div><div>and then there is this chestnu= t=E2=80=A6</div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Sego= e UI",SegoeUI,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;fo= nt-size:15px;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)">A: Because it messes up the= order in which people normally read text.</span><br style=3D"box-sizing:in= herit;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Segoe UI",SegoeUI,"Helve= tica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"c= olor:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Segoe UI",SegoeUI,"Helvetica Ne= ue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(247= ,247,247)">Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?</span><br style=3D"box-s= izing:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Segoe UI",SegoeUI,&qu= ot;Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span st= yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Segoe UI",SegoeUI,"Helv= etica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color= :rgb(247,247,247)">A: Top-posting.</span><br style=3D"box-sizing:inherit;co= lor:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Segoe UI",SegoeUI,"Helvetica Neu= e",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><span style=3D"color:rgb= (0,0,0);font-family:"Segoe UI",SegoeUI,"Helvetica Neue"= ,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(247,247,247= )">Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?=C2=A0</span><br></div><div= ><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Paul Beard / <a href=3D"http://www.paulb= eard.org/" target=3D"_blank">www.paulbeard.org/</a><br></div></div> --0000000000000eda4205ecd46cf2-- --0000000000000eda4205ecd46cf3 Content-Type: image/png; name="Screenshot 2022-11-06 at 1.54.59 PM.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Screenshot 2022-11-06 at 1.54.59 PM.png" 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