From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 9 18:15:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8A937B417; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBA2FYT02103; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:15:34 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Paul Murphy Cc: steve@FreeBSD.ORG, lioux@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNOME/KDE issue with disc1 Message-ID: <20011209181534.B1921@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011207181333.A97777@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209012306.A96687@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209183512.1467.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20011209142050.M46667@bsd.havk.org> <20011209151048.B92399@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>; from pnmurphy@cogeco.ca on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Paul Murphy wrote: > Personally I would think disc1 should take a "lets get up and running" > attitude, and contain a "simpler" desktop. KDE and GNOME are way too > bloated for a _basic_ install. To follow up on this, We however can do a little bit better about what KDE and GNOME bits we put on the first CDROM -- I got this private email (I don't believe they will mind if I quote part of it anonymously): So far as KDE goes, it is not at all monolithic and is already quite well organized into modules which are easily broken up from each other. You will get a working, if sparse, desktop including a browser, file manager, and editors, with just kdelibs and kdebase (and Qt of course). You'll get a pretty much full featured and powerful "average joe user" desktop with the addition of say, kdemultimedia and kdenetwork. You could have a really quite powerful office or home office desktop, by adding back the KOffice package. I'm basing this, by the way, on a general feeling of which packages KDE users find most useful - the exact arrangement is what we're here to discuss. libs + base = 18 Mb libs + base + network + multimedia = 27 Mb libs + base + network + multimedia + office = 36 Mb Even this would be a very useful Desktop Environment, and it's half the size of installing every package that's required (the script said something around 79 Mb) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message