From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 25 12:53:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4017137BA74 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8PIpTn78232 ; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:51:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id UAA70369 ; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:51:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 20:51:28 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Peter Lockhart , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Helping victims of terror Message-ID: <20010925205128.A70023@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3BAC3644.1CB0C626@mindspring.com> <3BAD1FAE.2F3D40F5@mindspring.com> <20010923011557.B60374@jake.akitanet.co.uk> <015e01c143c8$c93505a0$89941bd8@speakeasy.net> <015d01c14519$80553010$3309f540@bigsky> <3BB0CA62.B1F189A9@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BB0CA62.B1F189A9@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 11:18:10AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert said on Sep 25, 2001 at 11:18:10: > Peter Lockhart wrote: > > A poll on that bastion of unbiased news reporting otherwise known as CNN, > > reported about 87% of Americans polled supporting whatever action Bush > > proposed. The vast majority of American citizens I'm sure, almost oblivious > > of the fact that Bin Laden was on their payroll only a few years earlier. > > If my former employee shoots my neighbor, I'm not going to care > whether he was my former employee or not. You're missing the point so totally I think it's deliberate. You don't care. The rest of the world does care. The rest of the world cares because America's "solution" to the problem will, likely as not, be to arm some other armed group against the Taliban (the northern alliance being the most likely candidate), flood the place with more sophisticated arms and ammunition, and eventually aim to install some puppet regime there. The catch being that a puppet regime will last only so long, and meanwhile a disenchanted population will be growing, another Bin Laden among them, the difference being that this one is much better armed. Or -- the US will simply kill so many civilians and trample over so many Islamic feelings that bin Ladens will arise spontaneously from all over. That's the reason for raising the issue of bin Laden being trained by the CIA (he's not an isolated example at all, only the most notorious). Already the US is showering its largesse on a military dictator in Pakistan, to add to such other eminently democratic clients in the region as the Saudi royal family. People are worried that it will happen again and it will be worse next time. Don't be surprised if there's trouble with Pakistan in the not-too-distant future: the military there is seriously disenchanted with the US, and have plenty of leftover US arms apart from the ones they've got from China and the ones the US may be giving them now. It's not like your former employee shooting your neighbour: it's like you arming your employee to shoot a neighbour, he turning around and shooting your son, then you training another employee to shoot the first employee, and so on ad nauseam. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message