From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Nov 14 20: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from urdvg135.cms.usa.net (urdvg135.cms.usa.net [204.68.25.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA8DE37B419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3929 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2001 01:41:58 -0000 Received: from cpdvg203.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.13) by outbound.postoffice.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 2001 01:41:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 14578 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Nov 2001 01:33:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20011115013351.14577.qmail@cpdvg203.cms.usa.net> Received: from 165.212.11.13 by mx09 for [165.212.15.106] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.21.01) on Thu Nov 15 01:33:51 GMT 2001 Date: 14 Nov 2001 18:33:51 MST From: J S To: Yonatan Bokovza , Giorgos Keramidas , Terry Lambert Subject: Re: [RE: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping vi ctims of terror)))] Cc: Greg Lehey , chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.21.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yonatan Bokovza wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:charon@labs.gr] > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 07:31 > > To: Terry Lambert > > Cc: Greg Lehey; chat@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was = > > Re: helping vi ctims of terror))) > > = > > = > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 08:19:42PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > I think I should point out that I'm targetting the Israelis here > > > > because they should know better, and that answering = > > violence with more > > > > violence doesn't work. In fact, I'm more sympathetic to = > > the Israaeli > > > > cause than I am to the Palestinian cause. I know that the > > > > Palestinians started it. But this isn't the way to get = > > people to stop > > > > if they're prepared to die for their cause. > > > = > > > Actually, if you eliminate _all_ of your enemies in the > > > process, answering violence with more violence works. > > = > > Well, in a similar tangle of thoughts, if a nuclear holocaust does > > guarantee that all the `enemies' will die, it `works' too. But that > > does not make it justifiable, by any means. > = > And Now To Something Completely Different: If your belief is that > evolution is above all, even the human race, then nuclear > holocaust is paradise for mutants. That's a Good Thing - > evolution-wise. > You see, everything's justifiable with the correct use of some > sense, imagination and logic to tie it up. > = we are all human - no matter what color our skin, or what name we call our god(s) - inside we are the same. evolution won't change that, true we may specialize to the environment we are in, but we will still be human. = and to greg's statement - you can never eliminate all "enemies" unless you are the only one left (singular, as in one person, not nation). there can never be enough justification or positive results for killing and violence. = joshua **fight war, not wars** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message