From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 10:48:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670F916A4B3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgr5.xmission.com (mgr5.xmission.com [198.60.22.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0287E43FCB for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from mail by mgr5.xmission.com with spam-scanned (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1ACN5v-0004H4-05 for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:48:28 -0600 Received: from [207.135.128.145] (helo=misty.eyesbeyond.com) by mgr5.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1ACN5h-00040u-05; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:48:14 -0600 Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) h9MHnfjG069692; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:49:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.12.9p1/8.12.9/Submit) id h9MHnTAW069691; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:49:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:49:27 -0600 From: Greg Lewis To: Kurt Werle Message-ID: <20031022174927.GB69537@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <16278.47714.351403.755887@emerger.yogotech.com> <50255.64.170.199.99.1066844186.squirrel@mail.shiftmanager.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50255.64.170.199.99.1066844186.squirrel@mail.shiftmanager.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on mgr5.xmission.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.9 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_30 autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: cc: Nate Williams cc: Lucas Holt cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsddom and java's flaming hoops X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:48:33 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:36:26AM -0700, Kurt Werle wrote: > > [ Javascript doesn't work with your proxy ] > > > > Ok, what do you propose? How do verify that the FreeBSD Foundation and > > Java teams fulfill all the legal obligations to Sun? > > Ya know what I've found to be nice? > > Apple ships a JVM with their product. No clicks needed. That's really nice. Shipping != downloading The agreement with Sun allows the JDK to be distributed on CD by OEMs. I am aware of at least one vendor who plans to ship the Diablo JDK on their FreeBSD 4.9 cdrom. > I wonder how they do it. In Apple's case, they fork over a bunch of cash in licensing fees. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org