From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 17 05:36:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29525 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29495 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 05:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA17742; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:36:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:36:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon X-Sender: cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us To: groggy@iname.com cc: Frank Griffith , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Telnet and EE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 groggy@iname.com wrote: > > > For one thing, the telnet client that comes with Win95 and WinNT suck > > rocks. And I mean suck _bad_. Microsoft can't seem to do anything > > right, not even something as simple as a telnet client. Check the > > {free,share}ware sites for a decent Win* telnet client. I use SimpTerm > > on occasion and it seems to work well enough. > > i dislike MS as much as anyone, but i wouldn't call a > windowed telnet "simple" ;) write one ;) Ok, Ok... I know it isn't simple, but think of it in light of all the other bits of software that "aren't simple". It becomes pretty simple all of a sudden. :-) > especially without the support of the UN*X > environment. i like my W98beta3 telnet compared to the > crap i used to use with W31, and from what i understand, > MS's networking is based on BSD code (they get what they > can for free too ;) ... >From what I can tell, the telnet client in 95 and NT is the same junk they had in Win3.1. > what REALLY sucks, and sucks BAD, is their utilities. > i don't remember their exact names, but whatever their > forms of nslookup, traceroute, ping, etc, are. Heh, no kidding. Those utilties are pretty set in their ways... not flexible at all. You'd think they could at least borrow some real utilties from one of us free-unices. They'd never do that, though, because that would require that they give credit. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net /* FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and compatibles (SPARC and Alpha under development) (http://www.freebsd.org) */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message