From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 08:17:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70DC144F; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "vps1.elischer.org", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41C19ED7; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (50-196-156-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.156.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t1J8H0nl013954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:17:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <54E59BF7.40207@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:16:55 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d@delphij.net, Davide Italiano , freebsd-current , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: default pager (csh) References: <54E5232F.3060409@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <54E5232F.3060409@delphij.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:17:11 -0000 On 2/18/15 3:41 PM, Xin Li wrote: > > The _only_ reason that I can think of is that more(1) does not clear > screen for certain terminals (done with 'ti' and 'te' sequences), > while less(1) when running as less does. > > The less(1) behavior can be annoying to some people (sometimes even > myself when using less to show contents of a file and ^Z to paste > them), and unfortunately quite a few of them also happen to be the > more vocal ones when it comes to a change. I find that behaviour infuriating I page down to a place to get some text on the screen to use as a reference, then exit to run a command with that information, and *bam* the info I wanted to use has gone away.