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([2601:8:ab80:7d6:2434:29cc:2519:36ef]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v9sm8934339pdr.96.2015.06.14.04.09.36 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D0207CB8-6EF1-4A13-8660-9E54A9B19E16"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5 From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <20150614060935.GA3889@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 04:09:29 -0700 Cc: Craig Rodrigues , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Message-Id: References: <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20150614012924.GA2965@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20150614060935.GA3889@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: Steve Kargl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:09:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D0207CB8-6EF1-4A13-8660-9E54A9B19E16 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Jun 13, 2015, at 23:09, Steve Kargl = wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:45:57PM -0700, Craig Rodrigues wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Steve Kargl < >> sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: >>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Are you talking about this comment you made? >>>>=20 >>> = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2015-March/054899.html= >>>>=20 >>>> I can't make heads or tails of what you wrote, other than you = seemed very >>>> angry. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I wasn't very angry. >>=20 >> It's hard for me to tell, really, since you submitted patches >> with FUBAR in them, so you seemed pretty angry in that e-mail. >>=20 >=20 > FUBAR is as good as what is already there. Simply drawing > attention to the people responsible for libxo's inclusion > in FreeBSD that they need to fix it. I see the benefit in libxo, but I see the argument in it being = unnecessary bloat as well. >>> Do you really believe that the Nd entries for these manpages are >>> correct? >>>=20 >>=20 >> I'm not an expert on the mdoc format, so I couldn't tell you. >> If you can think of some patches to fix things, in the man pages, >> would you be able to submit the patches to Phil, and have them = incorporated >> into the software to make it better? >=20 > There isn't a public mailing list or other mechanism to > submit a patch. One needs to sign up for an account. > I have way too many accounts on way too many systems > to sign up for a new account to send in a single patch. Github is rather straightforward, but yes.. the workflow=92s a bit = different: 1. Fork project. 2. Create a branch for a =93topic=94 (i.e. fix/enhance X). 3. Open a pull request (which will open an issue). >> libxo is maintained at https://github.com/Juniper/libxo . >>=20 >> I don't know if you are willing/able to submit patches to the libxo = project >> on Github, >> to help fix things. That would be great if you could do that and = help out. >=20 > It seems that libxo developers have no interest in FreeBSD = documentation. Not entirely true. They=92re willing to work on the versioning problem I = noted in the above issue. > https://github.com/Juniper/libxo/issues/13 >=20 > Those that imported/maintain libxo within FreeBSD should fix the > documentation. The problem was with the manpage to github link referencing -- which can = change. FWIW I=92m happy they have documentation, unlike our current = defacto toolchain in FreeBSD (man clang makes me sad=85 I keep gcc = installed just so I can refer to something halfway decent): -O0 Means "no optimization": this level compiles the = fastest and generates the most debuggable code. -O1 Somewhere between -O0 and -O2. -O2 Moderate level of optimization which enables most optimizations. Really clang? I didn=92t realize that 1 was between 0 and 2... 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