From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 10 03:58:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4DD106566C for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4C98FC15 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd5ml3no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.148]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 20:43:04 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=a1Slso_v72EA:10 a=VF9RaR9bft6c8SsOr3WyFg==:17 a=N54-gffFAAAA:8 a=q0cFxaXPQGVyHs3tTM8A:9 a=Tq6UeKKLEMUy9RauIGUA:7 a=NUEsMzYTXor4Y53hN56On9gDCJ4A:4 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 Received: from unknown (HELO proven.lan.provenpath.ca) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd5ml3no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 09 Feb 2010 20:43:04 -0700 Received: from proven.lan.provenpath.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan.provenpath.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o1A3h3rt045960 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:43:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: (from npapke@localhost) by proven.lan.provenpath.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o1A3h3cV045959 for freebsd-x11@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:43:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan.provenpath.ca: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 19:43:03 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-STABLE; KDE/4.3.5; amd64; ; ) References: <6101e8c41002091524q25a7e026u585e575eb4f1589c@mail.gmail.com> <4B71FFA8.3070306@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <1265763880.8609.17.camel@balrog.2hip.net> In-Reply-To: <1265763880.8609.17.camel@balrog.2hip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201002091943.03523.npapke@acm.org> Subject: Re: freebsd7, radeon, xorg-server -> deadlock or so X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:58:05 -0000 On February 9, 2010, Robert Noland wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 01:36 +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > The situation is heavily unsatisfying, since one need an expensive > > AMD/ATi Radeon card to gain non-3D poor functionality, where a cheaper > > one should be do the same - but the cheaper ones don't work. Even if one > > uses AMD64, the situattion is worse and I have no reason using > > Linux-driver on a FreeBSD box. Hope the situation gets cleared in the > > nearest future. It's a kind of deadlock. As I said, either spenig a lot > > of money for a working RV770 based AMD graphics card with poor > > functionality or nothing so far, since most smaller RV730 chips aren't > > supported properly by the most recent drivers. > > I'm only aware of one issue which leads to corruption. I have patches > that resolve that issue which are not yet committed. If your are > experiencing lockups with DRI disabled, then something very strange is > going on and you will need to provide more details. I don't remember > exactly what drm code I have committed to 7 right now, but it should be > fairly current as I don't think I have much in the way of outstanding > MFCs. The current drm and radeon drivers work on every card that I > have, which in the r600 class are HD 3650,3850,4650. I think the variable include more than just the model of graphics card. I just replaced my motherboard, keeping all other components, disks, software and configuration. With the old motherboard my HD 3650 was working great including 3D acceleration. With the new board, X will hang/crash with DRI enabled. Even with DRI disabled, I still experience problems with the screen not updating unless I wiggle the mouse. The new mother board is an ASUS P5E3 Pro with an Intel X48 Northbridge. The severity of the hang requires a hard reset (fortunately ZFS is resilient!). No xorg log file is generated/preserved, nor is it possible to break to the debugger. I do not have a serial console. This makes it difficult to debug. What could I do to shed more light on this situation? Cheers, -- Norbert Papke. npapke@acm.org