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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:36:09 +0300
From: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>
To: Victor Snezhko <snezhko@indorsoft.ru>
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Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Goran Gajic <ggajic@afrodita.rcub.bg.ac.yu>
Subject: Re: 7.0-CURRENT ppp related panic
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:34:00PM +0600, Victor Snezhko wrote:
V> > G> I have managed to trigger two panics by doing ifconfig ppp0 destroy while
V> > G> ppp was running.
V> >
V> > Kernel ppp(4) is known to have problems. At least there are problems with
V> > interaction of Giant-locked tty layer and Giant-less network layer.
V> >
V> > I'd recommend you to use user-level ppp(8), or mpd, which routes traffic
V> > through kernel ng_ppp(4).
V> 
V> I may be mistaken, but I saw pppd in the panic report, isn't it an
V> indication of user-level ppp?

pppd(8) is a daemon that controls kernel level PPP.
ppp(8) is a daemon implementing PPP in userland.

V> P.S.: I'm using user-level ppp(it comes before kernel one in the
V> handbook :)) and I am lucky enough not to experience any problem since
V> I switched to -current in November (besides INET6-caused one, which is
V> now fixed). Thanks for notice, though.

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