Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:06:55 -0800 From: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com> To: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> Cc: Tim Kientzle <kientzle@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs? Message-ID: <3e1162e60601161306m7194ba57x478db322be8f99a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <43CB2A80.7090602@samsco.org> References: <20060111212605.79848.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C5B4B2.9000707@elischer.org> <43C5B6F0.1050004@samsco.org> <43C5BA62.3010301@elischer.org> <43C5BB37.6040202@samsco.org> <9ab217670601111821u27cb9852w@mail.gmail.com> <43C9E5A1.5070203@freebsd.org> <43C9E8ED.4030209@samsco.org> <3e1162e60601150741y7d8f110bla8f52ab32d93e793@mail.gmail.com> <43CB2A80.7090602@samsco.org>
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On 1/15/06, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote: > David Leimbach wrote: > > > > > > On 1/14/06, *Scott Long* <scottl@samsco.org <mailto:scottl@samsco.org>> > > wrote: > > > > Tim Kientzle wrote: > > > Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > > > > > >>> iMac, download the EFI spec from www.intel.com > > <http://www.intel.com>, open up the existing > > >> > > >> > > >> For the lazy / impatient / bad searchers: > > >> http://www.intel.com/technology/efi/ > > > > > > > > > On a related note, anyone know about any VMWare or Xen or other > > similar > > > virtual machine environment for Mac/Intel? (FreeBSD on Virtual > > PC on > > > Rosetta sounds very scary... ;-( > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > A meta-question to this is whether it will be possible to compile a= nd > > boot OpenDarwin on these x86 machines, like you can with the PPC on= es. > > If you can then I see no reason why Darwin couldn't be Xen-ified an= d > > serve as a Domain-0 host. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > I can't think of why opendarwin wouldn't work on a machine apple > > actually supports hardware-wise. Then again I didn't see any new > > releases of software on opendarwin.org <http://opendarwin.org>; relating > > to 10.4.4 yet :). > > > > I know the guy at apple who used to make these releases though and he's > > been working on a cool build system for building the whole system from > > the tarred snapshot releases from time to time. I used to test this > > stuff for him. > > > > It will take interested people with actual time to do the Xen port of > > course. I'm not sure how much work a Xen host port is compared to a Xe= n > > guest though. > > > > Dave > > > > > I guess I should clarify myself a bit. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that > OpenDarwin will boot on the Intel machines eventually, even if the > source isn't available today. What I'm really wondering about is > whether OpenDarwin will be able to support OSX on those machines. > And yeah, Kevin has done a good job with the OpenDarwin build system. > It still has a long ways to go before it's as nice as the FreeBSD one, > but it's better than it used to be =3D-) > > Scott > The bless man page for Mac OS X Intel reveals much about changing the efi boot "thingy". Seems that's where you'd want to put the FreeBSD loader... but that means it'll live on HFS+, and then we might want the FreeBSD loader to be able to boot Mac OS X too. Got some friends who've got their intel macs already... we'll see if they get experimental or not. I'm really not caring for dual boot as much as I am hoping for something like VMWare on Mac OS X so I can host FBSD and others there. I guess that takes EFI out of the equation at that point too. At some point... having to reboot kind of sucks :) Dave
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