From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 13:05:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD41011246B7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2E80836A0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1542114315; x=1544706315; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=gYHUb9Kl8pw4lr0utPiHUySu0IE6RIFHb77SN5EBIEU=; b=NDRkq/pr+pDpUrAhzQR5YtYxDcfms+NaoGMEPWW5fdesk+sqdjARmhRMdUoili2poDtyYQXxYWB4bRs3JAoTQqgT+5+W2AIbk7qR18E3RfGz1sv7fsJUJQrd7Ge/zY4EkQi5j2hHeZKjjHwKttqoznGt2PIW2vODsTt//3Zy3+E= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDIyNTQ1MTMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.204.195.176]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:05:06 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r5.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:05:06 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gMYNM-000Cm6-Fs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:05:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:05:04 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? Message-Id: <20181113130504.ce9045901a6c838aee60bc19@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D2E80836A0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.47 / 200.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.51)[-0.508,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: US(-0.09)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.954,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.983,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:05:15 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 05:18:10 -0700 "@lbutlr" wrote: > On 13 Nov 2018, at 04:15, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 03:50:16 -0700 "@lbutlr" wrote: > >> And 11,2 is the only current version I see > >> , but it is > >> marked to be EOLed at 11.3 +3month so where is a stable release that > >> will have a longer support window? > > > > There isn't one, at least not until 11. whatever > > may be (I'd guess 3 or 4 but that's just my guess), that will remain > > supported until September 2021 which may be long enough for 12. > > to arrive. I'd like to think that, ultimately, tracking n. will > > become a viable strategy. > > IIRC, this has not been the case in the past. Certainly all support for > 10.x expired long before 11.2-RELEASE and we're quite a long way from That is true, but the current support model is new. Looking back over the release history it's very hard to guess when 11. might happen 3 or 4 seems likely but the lifespan of a major release seems to vary from two and a half years to nearly four. I'm hoping for it to work out that way, but it certainly hasn't been stated as a policy. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith