From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 23:59:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049ED106567F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:59:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aragon@phat.za.net) Received: from mail.geek.sh (decoder.geek.sh [196.36.198.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1BF8FC2B for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aragon@phat.za.net) Received: by mail.geek.sh (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B8A9224D22; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:34:11 +0200 (SAST) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:34:11 +0200 From: Aragon Gouveia To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080702233411.GA26065@phat.za.net> References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> <486BFE3B.3040509@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <486BFE3B.3040509@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:03:40 +0000 Cc: Curtis Penner Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:59:18 -0000 Hi, As just another FreeBSD user.... | By Curtis Penner | [ 2008-07-03 00:51 +0200 ] > When you do a system install it is like jumping back to the 80's. The > front-end is like something from the DOS days. You have to be tech > savvy to know what you want to do. I respectfully disagree with your opinion of the installer. Contrary to your opinion, I cringe on the odd occasions that I have to install linux or windows. Sysinstall might have some quirks and look dated, but FreeBSD is the only OS I can install in less than 5-10 minutes AND still install only what I want the way I want it. I really hope the new installers that are in the pipeline don't change that. > You have to search out all the > variations of the applications (tedious and unnecessary) to get a full > package -- Examples: Postgres, PHP, etc. Again, disagree. Sounds like you don't like freedom of choice much. For me it's one of the best parts of FreeBSD's package management. > I am looking forward to a time when installing BSD is point and click > with not much understanding of what is going on (unless I want to go > advance and do special custom work). I'm not! If you don't care what is going on, why does it matter that you have FreeBSD installed? Pick something like PCBSD or even Ubuntu - as easy and thought free as it comes. Regards, Aragon