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Date:      Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Jared Lovell" <lovell@blindfaith.org>
To:        <fscked@pacbell.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Unsolicited email from craigslist
Message-ID:  <2672.67.117.145.190.1033055098.squirrel@www.blindfaith.org>
In-Reply-To: <3D9309DA.146A235@pacbell.net>
References:  <3D9309DA.146A235@pacbell.net>

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> Some incompetent apparently confused jobs@freebsd.org with his or her
> own personal mailbox and subscribed the entire list, instead.

He's obviously a dick.  Now you've given him the recognition he was after.
     Go dick go.
>
> There are persistent rumors that this was done by someone attempting to
> boost the visibility and ratings of Craigslist.

Yes, that's it, Craigslist is suffering and needs your support.  They sent
you marketing jobs to make sure you know about Craigslist.  They really
care if you see their Marketing Jobs.
>
> (After all, do *you*, gentle reader, know anyone smart enough to
> administer UNIX, yet stupid enough to subscribe a bunch of engineers to
> a marketing/advertising/PR notification service? Hence, we can rule out
> the actual recipients, to a (wo)man.)

Most people I know are both that smart, AND smart enought to spell
"Senior" correctly in their sigs,  should they feel compelled to put it
there at all.  Obviously, there are exceptions.   Perhaps UNIX
administration isn't the test of high intelligence you think it is?

>
> Discussions with Craig have revealed indications that Craig doesn't, or
> can't, read mail headers ... and that he *is* aware that his service
> can be used, indirectly, for harassment.
>

Read: "He told me to fuck off when I suggested that this type of list
harrasment was anyone's fault besides the dick who signed us up for
Marketing Jobs.  He obviously doesn't respect my authoritah or my fierce
UNIX administration kung-fu!  Let's get him!"

> If this state of affairs bothers you, you are encouraged to address
> Craig, directly, at craig@craigslist.org. It's his list; he is
> responsible for it.

True enough.  You might also thank him for providing the most widely used
bulletin board in the bay area, free of charge, to millions.  You might
make suggestions as to how his service could be improved.  You might -not-
start demanding that he make changes on the basis of a small incident of
list harassment.  You might take such an incident within its proper
context.

>
> You are welcome to Cc: me with your mails, so as to assure an objective
> measure of how many requests are sent to Craig before he complies.

I think I'll just send mine to you this time.

>
> If you're in San Francisco, Craiglist offices are easily reached by
> Municipal Railway; just take the 'N' Judah, past UCSF, until it turns
> left, at 9th Avenue. Get off at the next stop, at 9th Avenue and Judah.
> Craigslist offices are on 9th Avenue, near the corner, in a
> ground-level space.

So where do we send the CC?  Surely you don't expect us to hand deliver
one without the other?

- Jared Lovell






>
>
> -- richard
>
> --
>
> Richard A Childers/KG6HAC -- Senor UNIX System & Network Administrator
> "Dont forget nothing." Maj Rogers, standing orders, 1st Ranger Bn, 1759
>
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