From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Apr 21 11:09:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02130 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01996 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:09:03 GMT (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id UAA29375; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:08:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 20:08:56 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen McKay Cc: Mattias Pantzare , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld over NFS References: <199804211257.OAA28387@zed.ludd.luth.se> <199804211333.XAA12764@troll.dtir.qld.gov.au> Organization: Gutteklubben Terrasse / KRST / PUMS / YASMW X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 21 Apr 1998 20:08:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: Stephen McKay's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 1998 23:33:44 +1000" Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Stephen McKay writes: > On Tuesday, 21st April 1998, Mattias Pantzare wrote: > >> BTW, I use hard mounts, not soft. It's a bad idea to use soft except with > >> read-only mounts. > >Why? > [...] > But it's really quite simple: soft mounts are allowed to return errors > after a certain number of timeouts. So your programs will fail when > the server goes down or temporarily is hard to reach. Hard mounts must > retry until doomsday. So, in theory, the writes will complete when the > server comes back up, even if it is next year. s/hard/interruptible/g will at least let you interrupt processes you *know* will not lose data (or interrupt any process and take the consequences),without letting other processes time out and die. Keep in mind that with hard mounts, stuff like df and mount/umount will hang too, even if you are trying to mount / umount / change flags on a local filesystem. -- Noone else has a .sig like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message