From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 6 19:54:33 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1CF238D86 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 19:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic311-31.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic311-31.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48D8K40GQSz4bfL for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 19:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: x3Qnua0VM1kPsCiL60qsu8WVeP4tnnOstlV6kucMC1PlXefNSIAGgK_7MJfsTmb 4WWWk6CHFkNl_NxQka.JxDXpIwbD7FOPxJ6PSH8KsB0dzmPY2zQ28o9PLKaONQ0tyGwBS6C5Duz2 wq6yjUhJDbxcHuCMxpHP8Vcx6h30F3QsrUd3N9UJEd1Erz.5GC1uM3ruLaTZ91vyEfkn.2s8yPMj q.GV15HC.pr.Gkvy6VUO5kG28F27txT5YfkQ9WGOuHMM41akiWiDuF1t4yFKK7xDAr6X3ZSJI7.z bZR9qPVuWY_.gytWk38Tuxx.YDeB595_q2neqnYPj5mawoxf5TsSC.P_kBDnGpsM6zGhwlTNZ7O3 1M1FN_OJSJoAhN4o9vf0iL6unaFlrpiGxbmKYpuGh9bJ6_M8iU.iiDPELbqfs9.OZ1WL5gSAGM8E EpQbjg7Ctj2xpng.zVYLEfskE6Zo8LHDiETbWvVqKUHLmFViiLYj4hNvA_lgN_cygrDG0LQUVIe6 dS5mFPQI2NsdEASzcJRYu.FGrlVPCVKrTA22kH8oJNZ53h80XbkoEangToyrjcm25ZwU6OLmhx5g jTRq0jFIKRl6w1rNT4u7pPA0_UjzAj0RY2Fjhu5zlrfbGBiFejaL2WuMSlWWmM5cZPBLbnCqhkEL T05VB.DU6uhDKXOvvS2dwF3usBlLvA.nsvLbTUKUHpMS_ifb6qAWE35XKAxcAHXhsTuZqGMBGkiS Y7QH1jzrUB_3wOXw0MEVoxaqHIi4g_1KZb_3KCpcK3GoiUdwmmJjkQXgOUrAhCGgZnGRhq6NfG4l CzPtjXToQsy16mF5mw2CX_Zii42rjFQPyZADxHKLjyCmu2uvSsxtepBn88hwHRuTQ2x2B19h77F6 967kqG8mDKqM4CaROS30G9PVVruK7MlGmK2_k7n6YEAC5EjsSg0s5ev2TOC8Ma5Qtmjx_UVOOBxA Rbtxs3gTmlzCDX4Lr0PDklCL2o7xXqqOqjTovaYpzx0T0TMunfOIV.8YZOumDLzfjTytdHXi9iHG I9di_llMBETfQoZY0MqQNI6vOXP5CKu6J5ZalM8or9kz68zbRa6.jNEriY9F3U24SxyzICgZ75fm CQzGzMO_SuzEMj.h2emu.DYf7hstc7K.Lfh3cXzZJYWdIY5y7t5qZRzBqtu_2jW275De2tWiiNFw FbPUIidsQ84Xwm1.Nnqsw9Jq_KtI1_0TwJdldC6ZM4aqnIr2jvQmPH2jm7W.G16YI0mYvOLzmFU2 JzxJnfQn6l.ra9.gNLG3_1hnh3PA5qN8TDqeAj8pmdX1Bzmx_O1SZdbTCKFJAvzau3o9ClmF_vCG 85eq0fbflRgaTElCd5KMTg9IeQMRGoZk4FjNwBmO.JmVtCUaJkonCNa_92ZjCmnWmh2HBHPYH8_u 19hlhdj0_EmHHQTY- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 6 Feb 2020 19:54:29 +0000 Received: by smtp415.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ca88a97b1695f7f023d80e75233bf9e5; Thu, 06 Feb 2020 19:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 20:54:26 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating BIOS Message-ID: <20200206205426.123ecbb1@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: <20200206085845.7095d5af@scorpio> <20200206142137.40c130c8@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48D8K40GQSz4bfL X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.19)[-0.195,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.47)[0.468,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[163.176.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.60), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.17), asn: 34010(1.71), country: GB(-0.08)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[163.176.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 19:54:33 -0000 On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 11:24:48 -0800, Martin Glazer wrote: >Freedoms is the correct program. I use it. Good luck FreeDOS probably was required to update a PC BIOS, the time when I didn't use a PC, but a C64 or Atari ST. IOW that was a long, long time ago. I'm not aware of any 64 bit architecture PC, that requires more than a FAT 32 formatted device, to update the BIOS or UEFI thingy. IIRC I even updated a decades old 32 bit machine, just by using a FAT 32 partition. That time the computer just supported PATA (IDE), no SATA and I still used a floppy disk for some purposes. AFAIK updates on even relatively aged machines doesn't require an operating sytsem at all, it could be done by the BIOS and a FAT 32 partitioned device. It's just important to read the vendor's hints. Sometimes updating from a very old release to the latest release might brick the machine, it might be required to upgrade from one release to another and IIRC sometimes it could be impossible to downgrade, if an upgrade should suffer from a regression.