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Date:      Wed, 17 May 2000 21:25:52 +0100
From:      Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org>
To:        Rob <robert@namodn.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is port scanning a problem?
Message-ID:  <20000517212552.I232@parish>
In-Reply-To: <20000517040133.A14908@theo.namodn.com>; from robert@namodn.com on Wed, May 17, 2000 at 04:01:33AM -0700
References:  <20000516203849.A1491@parish> <20000517141125.A79652@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <20000517040133.A14908@theo.namodn.com>

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On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 04:01:33AM -0700, Rob wrote:
> Hi Rahul,
> 
> 
> Well, you have fingerd running.. 
> 
> Any particularly good reason? 
> 

Guess not, it's just FreeBSD "out of the box". Do I stop fingerd
running by commenting out the finger entries in /etc/inetd.conf?

BTW, why does fingerd not show up with ``ps -ax''?

> The only real issue there is that
> people can guess at usernames without
> triggering any alarms. 
> 
> login has slowdown tricks that make
> it difficult enough to brute force,
> but if you know a valid username you
> are at least half there ( paranoia.. )
> 
> Get nmap, it's in the ports under security.
> There's other stuff you probly don't wanna
> run except under tight control, like rsh/rexec
> etc.
> 
> You most definitely will get port scanned at
> one time or another if you are using a public
> IP address that is owned by an ISP ( DSL is
> worse.. )
> 
> There are alot of automated scripts out
> there that portscan, queso ( try to 
> figure out operating system/version )
> and try known exploits on open ports.
> 
> Might as well not risk it if you
> are not using all the services you run.
> 
> I generally run sshd and whatever service(s) the box
> is to perform ( generally one on servers, but my home
> machine has to be stretched a bit farther.. :)
> 
> Which does bring to mind, why does sshd by default
> only ask for a password when a user account exists?
> Seems to open up the aforementioned fingerd prob...
> 
> 
>    Rob
> ( Namodn )
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 02:11:25PM +0530, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > > My ISP's support newsgroup has lots of threads about "port scanning".
> > > Most of the people there are Windozers and since I've never heard any
> > > mention of it here I assume that it is a Windows vulnerability and not
> > > an issue if I connect only from FreeBSD. Is this correct?
> > > 
> > > I checked out Steve Gibson's site (http://wrc.com) which has a test
> > > program to check the vulnerability of your machine. The only thing
> > > that showed up in my logs when I ran this was in /var/log/messages:
> > > 
> > > May 16 20:23:18 parish inetd[96]: /usr/libexec/fingerd[1438]: exit status 0x100
> > 
> > Port scanning just means checking by brute force which ports are open
> > on your machine, afaik.  The portscanner you ran probably tried the
> > fingerd port too -- every time someone fingers someone on your machine
> > from outside you'll get that message in /var/log/messages.
> > 
> > Again, afaik, it is an issue only in that the services you run (httpd,
> > ftpd, sendmail etc) could have security problems which could enable an
> > attacker to get root access. Many machines have a lot of services
> > enabled by default which you don't really need. A portscanner will
> > tell you which ports are open on your machine so that you can close
> > everything non-essential.  You should portscan your machine before
> > an attacker does.
> > 
> > If there's more to it than that, maybe someone else will tell you
> > about it...
> > 
> > R.
> > 
> > 
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