From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 21 19:20:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D57106566B; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (cl-162.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:a1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832328FC12; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m3LJKxph021119; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:20:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m3LJKxxQ021118; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:20:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:20:59 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Alfred Perlstein Message-ID: <20080421192059.GA20748@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20080421182338.GB20417@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20080421185557.GB95731@elvis.mu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080421185557.GB95731@elvis.mu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:20:59 -0500 (CDT) Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Brooks Davis , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ddb scripts now load by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:20:47 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:55:57AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > I know this is a big step forward in a lot of ways, but it's also > a big step backwards for people used to how things just work. >=20 > Can we somehow put a "press a key to abort reboot" option in that > script before acting on it? echo 'ddb_enable=3D"NO" >> /etc/rc.conf -- Brooks > -Alfred (who thinks this is really cool, but wants to be able to > debug kernels without having to learn and disable something > new) >=20 > * Brooks Davis [080421 11:24] wrote: > > I've changed the default value of ddb_enable to YES so we now load ddb > > scripts from ddb.conf by default. Developers expecting to perform > > active deugging should add ddb_enable=3DNO or change the script to not > > perform at textdump and reboot the machine. > >=20 > > This is another step toward hopefully shipping 8.0 with DDB built > > in and generating useful crash dumps. The security implications of > > doing so need to be carefully considered and in particular the GENERIC > > kernel will probably want to be shipped with at least the options > > DDB_UNATTENDED and SC_DISABLE_KDBKEY. > >=20 > > The fact that the watchdog driver changes it's behavior based on > > DDB_UNATTENDED is probably a bug that should be fixed. > >=20 > > -- Brooks > >=20 > > ----- Forwarded message from Brooks Davis ----- > >=20 > > From: Brooks Davis > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:18:00 +0000 (UTC) > > To: brooks@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: [src] cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf > >=20 > > brooks 2008-04-21 18:17:48 UTC > >=20 > > FreeBSD src repository > >=20 > > Modified files: > > etc/defaults rc.conf=20 > > Log: > > Change the default of ddb_enable to YES so we default to generating t= extdumps > > on panic. This means you get a potentially useful dump even if your = system > > is running X when you panic. > > =20 > > X-MFC after: never > > =20 > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.332 +1 -1 src/etc/defaults/rc.conf > > _______________________________________________ > > cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > >=20 > > Index: src/etc/defaults/rc.conf > > diff -u src/etc/defaults/rc.conf:1.331 src/etc/defaults/rc.conf:1.332 > > --- src/etc/defaults/rc.conf:1.331 Sun Apr 20 20:37:20 2008 > > +++ src/etc/defaults/rc.conf Mon Apr 21 18:17:48 2008 > > @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ > > apm_enable=3D"NO" # Set to YES to enable APM BIOS functions (or NO). > > apmd_enable=3D"NO" # Run apmd to handle APM event from userland. > > apmd_flags=3D"" # Flags to apmd (if enabled). > > -ddb_enable=3D"NO" # Set to YES to load ddb scripts at boot. > > +ddb_enable=3D"YES" # Load ddb scripts at boot. > > ddb_config=3D"/etc/ddb.conf" # ddb(8) config file. > > devd_enable=3D"YES" # Run devd, to trigger programs on device tree ch= anges. > > devd_flags=3D"" # Additional flags for devd(8). > >=20 > >=20 > > ----- End forwarded message ----- >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > - Alfred Perlstein > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIDOkaXY6L6fI4GtQRAgtjAJ0S4jpn8Fq+yPBp6EgdOgxdjxydhwCfcBT2 h38dM64mdrbaM9ucAumHSF8= =Q8+F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o--